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Atomik
20-12--2005, 02:00 PM
So who does this do it for?

I can't say it floats my boat in the slightest. Apart from anything else, it's like.... hellooooooo!!!! Lesbians don't like guys!

I always found male lesbian fixation to be a bit of a hangover from school days. I mean it's a bit unimaginative really, innit? Why would I wanna watch two girls smearing each other with oil when I could be doing the smearing myself? I just don't get it.

Also, does anyone else find it weird how many men think lesbianism is great but male homosexuality is an unnatural deviation?

Exedous
20-12--2005, 03:02 PM
Also, does anyone else find it weird how many men think lesbianism is great but male homosexuality is an unnatural deviation?

They are both wrong, and they all desrve to go to hell....:reddevil:

Mwhahahahahaha...na , v watched male gay porn, it doesnt do it for me, but then..Hmmm, lesbian porn, for the most part is two straight women, pretending to be gay...so hence.......

Porn's jus got really crap now.....

Ghost

Perthite
20-12--2005, 03:21 PM
i don't know why it does, but t2o tasty ladies pleasuring each other really stirs something in my loins.

Chegzy
20-12--2005, 03:24 PM
well generally i think any fantasy should involve yourself participating, not just observing, so either is crap in my oppinion

josh
20-12--2005, 03:33 PM
i think its just that you find women attractive, so two women playing around = double attractiveness! for this reason though, i would have thought that women would find gay porn entertaining for the same reason but for the most part, they seem not to (apart from a few girls i know who love it for the reason suggested above).

However, I agree with cromlix - porn in general is crap. Also with chegzy.
:)

pretty polly
20-12--2005, 04:55 PM
as a female i find it completely greedy of men to want two women and its these men who have the problems. most decent honest men think that one girl who they find attractive whos in love with them and they are in love with her, is enough anyday of the week.

also porn itself is distasteful to both men and women and as a femninist i find it very offending and cheap. surley your imagination is more real and intense then any blonde (or any other colour lol) plastic UGLY (because they so are) bimbo going "oh yes harder harder ahhh" in the most mediocre voice being fucked by some macho twat.

if i offend you im glad because its just showing your deep problems.

ok rant over....

Atomik
20-12--2005, 04:58 PM
also porn itself is distasteful to both men and women and as a femninist i find it very offending and cheap. surley your imagination is more real and intense then any blonde (or any other colour lol) plastic UGLY (because they so are) bimbo going "oh yes harder harder ahhh" in the most mediocre voice being fucked by some macho twat.:clap::wave: :woohoo:

I'm so glad there are still some people out there who think like this. I was starting to feel like an old prude.

PS. If anyone disagrees with this I'll ban them :harhar:

pretty polly
20-12--2005, 05:01 PM
hehe YAY, but its so true! and i find any porn woman (or man) really quite ugly, not only do they no doubt have and ugly personality, but they look so manufactured and,well like everyone else who has no brain. GRR they do get me so mad sometimes

Exedous
20-12--2005, 05:08 PM
also porn itself is distasteful to both men and women and as a femninist i find it very offending and cheap. surley your imagination is more real and intense then any blonde (or any other colour lol) plastic UGLY (because they so are) bimbo going "oh yes harder harder ahhh" in the most mediocre voice being fucked by some macho twat.

if i offend you im glad because its just showing your deep problems.

ok rant over....

I agree, and to quoute...{i think it was stormypagan...who said..."i dont want to listen to some woman who sounds like she is giving birth to a cow..."

Porn sucks...{parden the pun}...id far rather have sex, than watch it...the guys are so used like tools, they have wierd shaped cocks, that could never...{if i was a woman} turn me on.....Hmmm yep...iv given up on it....

Ghost

Perthite
20-12--2005, 05:17 PM
i'm standing somwhere near dok's often written but not this time point of view about porn, it's shite, but erotic images (and imagery), now we're talking.

Atomik
20-12--2005, 05:21 PM
Yeah, I see a distinction between porn and erotic imagery of naked/semi-naked people. The human body is attractive - nothing wrong with enjoying that. The problem is the cheap, tacky and abusive images perpetuated by the porn industry.

pretty polly
20-12--2005, 05:24 PM
Yeah, I see a distinction between porn and erotic imagery of naked/semi-naked people. The human body is attractive - nothing wrong with enjoying that. The problem is the cheap, tacky and abusive images perpetuated by the porn industry.

yes thats exactly what it is! thankyou for ages ive been trying to figure that out in my head as yes the human body is beautiful and should be embraced and loved but then porn embraces it and turns it into something vulgar and cheap. and thats the difference, ahhh that one less little thought to explain in my head

josh
20-12--2005, 05:34 PM
theres a guy ( i cant remember his name) who does erotic porn - like its people 'making love' as opposed to that tacky fucking in most porn. The models used are very beautiful (everyones idea of beauty is different i guess but his models are very much not your standard blonde/bigtits/barbie dolls that you find everywhere) - and its filmed with a lot of attention to scenery and surroundings and stuff - its very much a fantasyscape. The people genuinely looked like they were enjoying themselves and it was done quite romantically despite being fully explicit.
To be honest, it still didnt work for me but i found it an admirable try ;)

Atomik
20-12--2005, 06:12 PM
yes thats exactly what it is! thankyou for ages ive been trying to figure that out in my head as yes the human body is beautiful and should be embraced and loved but then porn embraces it and turns it into something vulgar and cheap. and thats the difference, ahhh that one less little thought to explain in my headI find that porn degrades sexuality. It treats it as a commodity that can be bought and sold, free from emotion or feeling. It's also generally very crass and tasteless.... bigger, louder, harder, brighter. There's no room for subtlety. Just women with huge tits, with their legs spread wide, everything on display in full studio lighting. Sorry, but I don't even find that slightly attractive. I also think that this helps desensitise people so that they have a harder time enjoying sex - if you look for bigger, louder, harder, brighter.... eventually you'll be disappointed. You'll always need a bigger fix. If you look more for the subtlety of form and shape, of tease and touch.... the sensuality of the experience.... then you'll always find there's more to explore and enjoy. For me, porn just reflects so much of what's wrong with our society. It's like a big, bloated, greasy big mac, with people queuing up to stuff themselves on its lardy foulness.

josh
20-12--2005, 06:28 PM
I find that...


stop trying to get in there with pretty polly :harhar:

Atomik
20-12--2005, 06:30 PM
stop trying to get in there with pretty polly :harhar::respect:

scothippy
20-12--2005, 06:56 PM
Honestly, i watch porn for a quick fix. I prefer my own imagination. I dont think about it deeply while watching it or the storyline if any its just a quick fix if im feeling horny. I get very bored of it and realistically the men are ewwwwww and the girls are ewwwwwwww but other than that. Socially its bad coz womens vaginas arent all like that, and i get extremely worried about mens perceptions on vaginas if any. If i get my kit off and everythings fine, first thing im gonna do is make him go down on me for a good 15 minutes and teach him about my stuff and if he doesnt then he wont be gettin any and of course after that ill give something.... :D

Anyway lesbians, i love seeing lesbians kiss, its so sweet, and i suppose seeing two porn lesbians well its better in a way coz women arent as domineering as men. I think girls can easily become interested in other girls just coz we are close with girls anyway, we hug and shit, men dont do that. They have a mental block, they might clap each other on the shoulder but thats about it which is why they prob find the idea of men on men yucky, but i even find when men kiss (as long as i fancy them) a realy turn on. So...
I think men are turned on by two pretty women kissing coz simply its two pretty women who are kissing, same principle with me.

Whirler
20-12--2005, 08:26 PM
I've had lesbian fantasies - does that count? :eek:

The Original Laney
20-12--2005, 08:29 PM
I've had them too :eek:

Atomik
20-12--2005, 08:31 PM
Hi. I'm here to fix the boiler......

Whirler
20-12--2005, 08:36 PM
I've had them too :eek:Hey! Get your hands off my fantasies!!! :mad: Ooooh on second thoughts......:flirt:

Whirler
20-12--2005, 08:37 PM
Hi. I'm here to fix the boiler......You're a bad bad man..........:reddevil:

Atomik
20-12--2005, 08:40 PM
Is there anything else you'd like.... ahem.... servicing while I'm here, ladies?

Exedous
20-12--2005, 08:46 PM
Watched a film last night {channel 4} it was called "Under The Skin"..it was far more erotic than any porn iv seen. Just thot id share that.

Oh yea, i watched it coz it was a good film, NOT because it "contained scenes of a sexual nature"

Ghost

pretty polly
20-12--2005, 11:30 PM
Oh yea, i watched it coz it was a good film, NOT because it "contained scenes of a sexual nature"

Ghost
suuure thats what we allll say ;) hehehe

Atomik
20-12--2005, 11:35 PM
And I suppose that box of tissues just happened to be handy.....

Exedous
21-12--2005, 02:35 AM
And I suppose that box of tissues just happened to be handy.....

:lol:.................NO!!!

phil
21-12--2005, 10:22 AM
A fantasy of two women is all well and good but imagine AFTER!! two of em breakin wind and blamin it on you and two lots of brews to make and two lots of food to make. Plus as you were brewin up etc you just know they'd be gigglin about how crap you were and how tiny your todger was behind your back!! :D

The Original Laney
21-12--2005, 12:23 PM
well duh.. :D

Lady_Fantasy
21-12--2005, 02:57 PM
I do find lesbian scenes highly arousing...but i have to make a distinction between lesbian porn that is made for straight blokes and lesbian porn that is made for ladies. The latter is far more realistic...I don't see how it can be pleasurable to be fingered by a girl who had long nails, which is what i've seen in many of those "lesbian porn" films...they're clearly acting for the camera, no doubt about that! and lack the real thing, you know? well i guess the same applies to most heterosexual porn...it lacks that sexual element that transcends beyong the physical, but i guess that's the purpose of that, well aside making profit.

PeacePiper
21-12--2005, 06:49 PM
Lesbian fantasies means femininity to the extreme whereas gay men is
macho to the extreme. Men - in general - like femininity in women which to me explains fascination with lesbians. Women not liking gay porn? I doubt women like the extreme machoness of it but hell how do I know. Women may like machoness but in the extremes?

+ Yes porn in general is shit because it is americanized...

Atomik
21-12--2005, 08:49 PM
Lesbian fantasies means femininity to the extremeI'd have to disagree. There's been very little femininity involved in any of the lesbian porn that I've seen.

Paul
21-12--2005, 09:00 PM
The thought of two women going at it does nothing for me really. I like to believe there's be a chance of getting invited to join in.

Which has happened to me ... that was different though, they weren't lesbians, just very kinky (or greedy). :)

PeacePiper
23-12--2005, 08:26 PM
I'd have to disagree. There's been very little femininity involved in any of the lesbian porn that I've seen.
I'm completely agree. But what about REAL lesbians?


The thought of two women going at it does nothing for me really.
Nothing?

Paul
23-12--2005, 08:37 PM
Nothing?Yep ... I said the thought of, not the sight of ;)

Ms. Vee
29-03--2006, 09:16 AM
I also think that this helps desensitise people so that they have a harder time enjoying sex - if you look for bigger, louder, harder, brighter.... eventually you'll be disappointed. You'll always need a bigger fix. If you look more for the subtlety of form and shape, of tease and touch.... the sensuality of the experience.... then you'll always find there's more to explore and enjoy. For me, porn just reflects so much of what's wrong with our society. It's like a big, bloated, greasy big mac, with people queuing up to stuff themselves on its lardy foulness.

:thumbup:

I agree wholeheartedly. The 'bigger, hard, louder, better' mentality is damaging to everybody. And people will say "well, if you don't like it then don't watch it", but that is such a ridiculously simple way to look at it. Even if I am not watching it, it is still affecting me because it affects society. I also find it gives impressionable young men a distorted view of sexuality and female bodies. By consuming porn as though it is a throwaway commodity, women become merely fuck-holes who you simply shove your dick in (usually WITHOUT any form of contraception, may I add) and thrust away with no second thoughts. And then there's the shock of "Oh my god, large breasts actually sag and fall to the side when the woman lies down! Eww!!" that men encounter after seeing fake tit after fake tit and then meeting a natural pair of large breasts...

I've spoken to blokes who actually believed it was perfectly fine to anally penetrate a woman by just "popping it in" during sex WITHOUT asking her for her consent beforehand, WITHOUT lubrication and WITHOUT a condom! And this was all because they had seen it happen time and time again in porn.

The thing is, you explain your views on the subject to people and they call you jealous and an old prude and all that rubbish. So, I think a lot of people keep quiet, when really they hate the many aspects of it. I think there is nothing essentially wrong with images created to arouse, but pornography as the industry that it currently is dangerous, damaging and degrading.

sensamelia
29-03--2006, 11:13 AM
i dont buy into the whole porn thing it does nothing for me at all
i think the peeps just look so false and stupid

sex for me is the inevitable act between two people its the foreplay ,touching caressing and stroking that does it for me
with hubby of course

Paul
29-03--2006, 03:23 PM
its the foreplay ,touching caressing and stroking that does it for me
with hubby of courseand with anyone else? :p

sensamelia
29-03--2006, 04:27 PM
you offering paul hehehe:whistle:

Paul
29-03--2006, 04:42 PM
Might be ... I'll just check my diary :whistle:

sensamelia
29-03--2006, 04:44 PM
waits while paul checks diary...........keeps looking at watch:whistle:

Paul
29-03--2006, 05:37 PM
Yeah cool, but scrub all the carressing and stroking and just brace yourself :harhar:

sensamelia
29-03--2006, 05:38 PM
is that a leg brace:scared:

Paul
29-03--2006, 05:45 PM
nah, it's an ickle "don't turn round or you'll laugh" sort of brace :o

sensamelia
29-03--2006, 05:48 PM
i doubt that very much ...............aggghhhyour blushing:o you old flirt you

onelove
03-04--2006, 11:44 AM
I much prefer to use my imagination...

phil
04-04--2006, 02:29 PM
I hate lesbians! every lesbian couple is two less women out there and i'm strugglin as it is!! :o

Atomik
04-04--2006, 02:36 PM
I hate lesbians! every lesbian couple is two less women out there and i'm strugglin as it is!! :oYes, but every gay couple is two less competitors, so it all balances out. ;)

littlesausage
04-04--2006, 02:46 PM
To be honest Id say that at times the porn industry has put me off sex

It comes at you (no pun intended) from every angle and has infiltrated into so many different things that its hard to draw the line now where porn ends and real intimacy begins


I feel like Ive been stuck in a game that I really dont wanna play. its just an ongoing competition thats being held judged and controlled by the fatcats ..

I just cant be arsed

Ms. Vee
04-04--2006, 04:45 PM
I feel like Ive been stuck in a game that I really dont wanna play. its just an ongoing competition thats being held judged and controlled by the fatcats ..

I know exactly what you mean. The thing with porn at the moment is that it doesn't stay hidden like it used to - it's everywhere. There's softcore-porn-looking things on TV, in magazines, newspapers, movies, even in fashion (the absolutely dreadful Playboy brand of clothes). If you don't like it, then you have no choice about seeing it or not. It does make you feel like you are stuck in a place you don't want to be.

Atomik
04-04--2006, 05:39 PM
I know exactly what you mean. The thing with porn at the moment is that it doesn't stay hidden like it used to - it's everywhere. There's softcore-porn-looking things on TV, in magazines, newspapers, movies, even in fashion (the absolutely dreadful Playboy brand of clothes). If you don't like it, then you have no choice about seeing it or not. It does make you feel like you are stuck in a place you don't want to be..... none of which would be so bad if porn was actually reflective of healthy sex, rather than just crass, tacky and shallow.

Ms. Vee
04-04--2006, 08:38 PM
.... none of which would be so bad if porn was actually reflective of healthy sex, rather than just crass, tacky and shallow.

Yup. If porn was reflective of healthy sex then we would probably live in far less fucked-up world. Sex isn't something which should be repressed and kept quiet about, but sex and porn are two very different things. I mean, I find sex and sexuality a fascinating subject and can talk openly about it to almost anyone, but I find the pornification of everything sickening and frustrating.

I am actually relieved some folks here feel the same way. Usually it's just "oh well you're a bloody feminist, so you would say that. You're just jealous/bitter/a prude/etc".

onelove
04-04--2006, 09:02 PM
Hi. I'm here to fix the boiler......

Lol! Love it! :D

Atomik
04-04--2006, 09:03 PM
I am actually relieved some folks here feel the same way. Usually it's just "oh well you're a bloody feminist, so you would say that. You're just jealous/bitter/a prude/etc".Nah. I've got nothing against the idea of erotic, sexual images, but porn is just.... ewwww. Not my idea of sex, that's for sure!

Atomik
04-04--2006, 09:04 PM
Lol! Love it! :DDo you want to see my spanner? :whistle:

phil
05-04--2006, 09:15 AM
An ex of mine put a porn vid on and got really annoyed when i couldnt stop laughin instead of getting turned on. She was really pissed off but honestly it was really tacky and funny as fuck, how that turns people on is beyond me!

littlesausage
05-04--2006, 10:40 AM
I think real erotica is where you get lost in the moment .. youre not thinking about what you look like, you just lose yourself to the other person and trust them completely .. porn destroys that

Atomik
05-04--2006, 10:43 AM
porn destroys thatAbsolutely. You may as well watch animals rutting in the field. I find tasteful, erotic pictures of fully-clothed women far more arousing than porn.

rohan wood
11-05--2006, 01:02 PM
my hubby says:

to me i have no problem with porn. if you need nothing more than to splrugde, a bit of complete fantasy is just what you need. I realise that you can get more fulfillment from your own mind but lets be fair, sometime you can't be arsed. That is where porn, in any shape helps. sorry....




i said:

that porn is a turn on for me but i find my mind is a much a sexier place to be, i have friends on the edge of the sex industry one friend dose dirty texts the other dose phone sex and they find what they do not degrading they are using there own sexuality for money (which i find sad) but they could be doing the same with a guy they meet in a bar for free.

he then added:

which would rather your partner did .. be honest...two choices no option 3 ....... watch a bit of porn get his (or her) rocks off or find that same thing from a phone sex line.

i know which i want him to do porn wins out everytime.

Atomik
11-05--2006, 01:36 PM
to me i have no problem with porn. if you need nothing more than to splrugde, a bit of complete fantasy is just what you need. I realise that you can get more fulfillment from your own mind but lets be fair, sometime you can't be arsed. That is where porn, in any shape helps. sorry....That's where the discussion turns to porn vs erotica though. The vast majority of porn just doesn't stimulate me. I just find it kinda sad, empty and pathetic.


and they find what they do not degrading they are using there own sexuality for money (which i find sad)Using your sexuality for money is, IMHO, degrading.... whether you find it so or not.


which would rather your partner did .. be honest...two choices no option 3 ....... watch a bit of porn get his (or her) rocks off or find that same thing from a phone sex line.They're not the only two choices. And personally, I wouldn't do either. But again, it's complicated by the fact that the vast majority of porn is pretty sad stuff. Maybe it'd be different if porn was actually sensual and erotic rather than crude and sordid.