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hippyvik
17-12--2007, 03:38 PM
Hey all, I just wondered if anyone had been to the winter solstice at stonehenge before. Any idea on what happens, what the atmosphere is like etc etc......

partydread
17-12--2007, 05:27 PM
Well we used to go regularly in the 80's...personally liked it more than the summer festivities...less people there but also less wankers (probably due to the brrrr and less hype!)...seemed to lead to a more focussed celebration...and I just love the winter solstice like...that womblike darkness...the whole death and rebirth business....
as for what it's like now though, gawd knows:xsnowface

stardust
17-12--2007, 05:46 PM
summer solstice at stonehenge broke my heart last year. hi-vis jackets everywhere, cops in stab vests. and the burger vans, meaning more litter than grass. it seemed there were very few people there for the actual solstice. everyone else just wanted to get muntered and showed no respect for the stones atall.

i was fucking disgusted to be honest with you, and have sworn that's the last summer solstice i do at stonehenge. but i would love more than anything to do a winter at stonehenge, coz it'll be too cold for the people who are just there to party i would imagine, leaving a gathering of just the people who respect the stones.

Grendel
17-12--2007, 05:58 PM
http://www.heritageireland.ie/en/Solstice2007/ (http://www.heritageireland.ie/en/Solstice2007/)
live webcast from the winter solstice at Newgrange - enjoy
Grendel

scarlett
17-12--2007, 06:37 PM
Hey all, I just wondered if anyone had been to the winter solstice at stonehenge before. Any idea on what happens, what the atmosphere is like etc etc......

you queue, you watch a bunch of plastic pagans chant...you freeze your nads off...go to a local moot open ritual..there should be one in your area...much more cosy and fun...and no crusty pissheads either:xwink::xdrink:

partydread
17-12--2007, 06:40 PM
That was kinda my drift Stardust...and is why I haven't been for 20 years.

Just can't stand the thought of a fence grrr. Was gonna go last June, wanted to take my boy who had just turned the magical age of 14, from what you say...glad I didn't now :xconfused

Coyote
17-12--2007, 07:51 PM
Feck no, dont do it! Have you BEEN on salisbury plain in winter?! Its cold enough in summer! Brrrrrrr

Besides, there's nothing magical about some dead king's penis replacement (which is probably what it is, lets face it :D ).

stuoolong
17-12--2007, 08:37 PM
Some people were arguing in the news last week about a new road - whether to build a tunnel under the stones, or some sort of bypass/road widening. Surely neither is the best option?

I do like to celebrate the winter solstice but I usually do it in the pub, to be honest...Stonehenge doesn't have any particular religious significance to me and I'll just take people's word for it that the stones are aligned to the sun. I've seen Stonehenge, and it's awe inspiring, but not enough for me to want to spend a frosty night there.

I had a disagreement with someone about solstices, she said that she doesn't celebrate the summer one because it means that life will be getting darker from now on...I think they are equal and opposite and celebrate both.

Benijuana
17-12--2007, 09:19 PM
im goin avebury

Coyote
17-12--2007, 10:05 PM
im goin avebury

Good choice - the pub is better than any flask of lukewarm soup :) but mind the sheep shit and pissed druids :D

stardust
18-12--2007, 12:17 AM
isn't it still height barred though?

avebury would always be my first choice every time. i've been going for years and years and often stayed in the carpark. am gutted they height barred it coz i cant go now.

bastards.

i have heard that stonehenge is much better for winter solstice than it is summmer. i now wouldn't go in the summer if you paid me, but i've never done a winter and just want to try at least one to see what it's like.

Solstice
18-12--2007, 03:14 PM
Hey all, I just wondered if anyone had been to the winter solstice at stonehenge before. Any idea on what happens, what the atmosphere is like etc etc......
If you want to get into the stones with fewest people it's best to go either at the spring or autumn equinox, more people go for the winter solstice. You don't get very long in the stones at the equinoxes or winter solstice, probably about an hour and a half or so, but at least the pain in the arse elements are absent and you get a good opportunity to see the stones close up. The people who go at these times are respectful of the place and no one leaves litter/climbs all over the stones so it make for a much nicer atmosphere. There are druidic ceremonies (and the occasional handfasting) but you're not obliged to take part so you can either go for a walk around the stones or just be an observer if that's what you want to do.

If you do go this winter, have fun. I'm not going for the solstice sunrise but might go for the sunset (stonehenge is aligned to the mid-winter sunset and the mid-summer sunrise). There isn't open access at that time but if it's a good sunset you can get some good photos from near the heel stone of the setting sun's rays coming through.

stardust
18-12--2007, 03:15 PM
thanks for that. it's good to know the stones get to look down on some nice times, and not just at tourists and wankers!

Atomik
18-12--2007, 03:31 PM
I have no love for Stonehenge. Not in its current form. Until they take down the fence and divert/close the A303, it will never hold any magic for me. So many stone circles in this country, in much better locations, holding much more magic.... never understood why Stonehenge gets all the attention. Now a solstic gathering at Scorhill might be worth attending!

Bear Face
18-12--2007, 05:47 PM
go up the lake district , much nicer

stuoolong
18-12--2007, 07:03 PM
never understood why Stonehenge gets all the attention. Well I'm no archaeologist, but I've always been told that it is unique, or vary rare, among sites from that period, in terms of structure and design.

Atomik
18-12--2007, 08:47 PM
Well I'm no archaeologist, but I've always been told that it is unique, or vary rare, among sites from that period, in terms of structure and design.It is. Which is precisely why I find the whole thing weird. In terms of neo-pagan sacred sites, it's not actually very representative of the way our ancestors did things. It was in use much later than other sites, and seems to be more about dominating the landscape than blending into it, which other, smaller stone circles seem to do. If anything, it seems more symbolic of the ushering in of an age of mankind's dominance of nature - which would seem to be at odds with people's perceptions of what Stonehenge represents.

Skye
19-12--2007, 11:02 AM
Summer solstice at stonehenge was shit, full of idiots, Autumn Equinox was well chilled, only about 200 people there. I would'nt go again though, imo there are some better places to go.(less comercialised) :xdrink:

hippyvik
19-12--2007, 11:04 AM
Thanks for the info guys, I have never been to Stonehenge full stop but Julian is really intrigued to go to Stonehenge to see the Solstice. A friend of ours mentioned Glastonbury and personally the time we went to Avebury was absolutely stunning so I'm sure there are better places to go but Julian just wants to experience Stonehenge the once. Please all think of me on Friday night, in a freezing cold bus, with 3 kids and my other half. I just hope he appreciates it and buys me a seriously wonderful Christmas present or he might be a girlfriend down by New Year!!!! Ha Ha

stardust
20-12--2007, 02:41 AM
say hi to the stones from me, and tell them sorry for last solstice.

Parafinfairy
21-12--2007, 01:35 PM
Hey guys - just wondering if anyone could give me any info on Avebury?? I am planning to head up in a couple of hours and am going to tent it (now there's dedication for you...!!). Anyway I would like to spend as much of the evening tonight as possible the nice warm pub and was wondering where people tend to go? I've not been to Avebury before and thought it would be nice for a change.

Thanks very much, big hugz Lexie

Atomik
21-12--2007, 01:39 PM
There's a pub in Avebury, so you'll be fine. :D

stardust
21-12--2007, 01:39 PM
avebury is wikkid! and good luck with the tent thing!!

the pub is the only pub in the whole country (probably the whole world) that is actually right in the middle of a stone circle! it's lovely and warm in there and you get a good crowd. if you have any instruments, take them! and if you see a lady with three cats and a baby in there say hi to her from me!

wish i was going myself - have a wikkid time!

Parafinfairy
21-12--2007, 02:01 PM
thanks for the info! Just wondering if you know whether it will be possible to camp - we dont' have a van, just a car. I'v just looked on google and can't find any nearby campsites plus I'm not sure they'd even be open at this time. Are there areas we could get away with camping in? If not then I'll just go up and play it by ear!

Will bring the djembe if there are insturments, really looking forward to it, thanks for the help!

Atomik
21-12--2007, 02:03 PM
There's no nearby campsite. No idea whether the National Trust officially allow camping over the solstice, but you're not gonna have any problems getting away with it for just one night. There's plenty of spots where you could chuck up a tent.

stardust
21-12--2007, 02:03 PM
you can camp in the carpark (on the grassy bit at the end.)

apparently the carparks height barred now. dont know how high your van is, but this is the reason i'm not going.

camping in the avebury carpark has always been accepted in the past but now they've height barred it and turned into total arseholes i dont know what the score is with that one.

Atomik
21-12--2007, 02:05 PM
dont know how high your van isWake up, Lezza!


we dont' have a van, just a car:xsnowball:

stardust
21-12--2007, 02:07 PM
i was talking to the invisible people.

Atomik
21-12--2007, 02:09 PM
i was talking to the invisible people.:screwy:

Parafinfairy
21-12--2007, 02:12 PM
cool, well thanks for the advice, I'm sure we'll find somewhere - I mean I can't imagine if we pitch fairly late we will get a problem. i'll look out for the lady with 3 cats and a baby!!

Cheers and hope you all have a good one....

Atomik
21-12--2007, 02:15 PM
Good luck!

:xmerry:

scothippy
21-12--2007, 06:30 PM
There's this broch called Dun Telve up north just a bit away from Skye and Dornie...i would rather go there and sleep in one of the old cellar things. The gate isnt locked so....hehe. Anyway there's a lot of ruins of old neolithic or prechristian ages and if the Gods exist, im sure their eyes go everywhere. You don't have to go to Stonehenge to celebrate the winter solstice. Maybe try the Callanesh (i cant spell it) stones i think in the isle of lewis.

hippyvik
22-12--2007, 09:22 PM
Well, we got back from Winter Solstice at Stonehenge about 2 hours ago. It was absolutely fantastic!! SAt around a campfire last night singing folk songs and the atmosphere was really cool. Some wicked people who knew how to celebrate and sooo friendly. Then this morning, watching the sunrise was just a wonderful place to be. Everynoe was there for the same purpose, and although our bus isn't yet converted yet, so basically just a shell with matresses on the floor, it wasn't too cold!! The only downside was I got raging toothache at 11 last night just as i wanted to sleep and it didnt go away until 4 this morning so by the time i had nodded off, it was time to get up but hey, worse things happen at sea. Al in all, a very enjoyable time was had by all and would definately do it again!!!

Hawthorn
23-12--2007, 12:28 AM
I was there too this morning and had a wonderful time. Great atmosphere.