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    I may be interested in the 406. BHD. or at least the tranfer box and axles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Languid Virago View Post
    this could be downrated to 3.5 tonne for example.

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/IVECO-40-10-4X4-PICKUP-STARTS-RUNS-DRIVES-SPARES-OR-REPAIR-NOT-UNIMOG-COUNTY-/182101398801?hash=item2a6616d511:g:NHkAA OSwq7dXFlac

    No ecu, diff locks and 4WD, but slightly shorter, box body could be added easily or you could make one from scratch.
    I do like the look of that and if I had some mechanical skills I'd be all over it, but as I don't I just see expense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonathanh1989 View Post
    I do like the look of that and if I had some mechanical skills I'd be all over it, but as I don't I just see expense.
    There is a reason god invented Haynes manuals. if you are planning a long budget overland trip like you say, learning to repair, prepare, and carry out routine maintenece on the vehicle you will be using is a prequisite.

    If you don't, just make sure you keep 10 grand handy somewhere to pay for short notice flights to repatriate you and your family from the middle of nowhere.

    Skills learned is money in the bank.
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    [QUOTE=Languid Virago;1470813]There is a reason god invented Haynes manuals. if you are planning a long budget overland trip like you say, learning to repair, prepare, and carry out routine maintenece on the vehicle you will be using is a prequisite.

    If you don't, just make sure you keep 10 grand handy somewhere to pay for short notice flights to repatriate you and your family from the middle of nowhere.

    Exactly if you can follow a recipe you can follow a manual , we all had to learn somehow , when I was on the road years ago my landy fucked up , had partner 2 small kids . not much money no idea what was wrong so we went and joined the local library got a Haynes manual and took the engine apart on the side of the road , replaced a piston and big ends ourselves , that first turn of the key and it fired up was a amazing experience
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    Quote Originally Posted by Languid Virago View Post
    I may be interested in the 406. BHD. or at least the tranfer box and axles.
    Hi could be persuaded to part with some bits , gearbox / transfer box , prop , no problem , axles and wheel I would have to find something else to rest the chassis on , but it would give me a buzz to think that some parts had a second life and where driving to India , have to wait till the robins have finished with it first though

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    Just a little tip for anyone planning a long trip or any trip when there is a mechanical failure.

    If travelling and you break down and need to fix things, unless it is an emergency and you are in a precarious or dangerous situation.....STOP Put the kettle on, make a brew, enjoy....smoke em if u got em, and then...only then.... Start on the repair.
    You would be amazed how much more rational you are and able to cope with stressful situations when the mind has had 15 or 20 mins to just let the gears spin down from flat out near panic mode.
    Those Mountains that you're carrying, you were only supposed to climb.
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    You guys almost persuade me to try and sell it and start looking again. It comes back down to time/cost and weight though.
    Of course skills can be learnt, and I'd love to at least learn a little when it comes to maintaining and fixing a vehicle I plan to drive, but it does take time to learn. I work full time, have a family, am actively involved in our local church and youth work, so work on the van has to occupy odd hours stolen here and there and any holidays I can take. We lived with a family in Germany for a year and he was a mechanic by trade, I wish I'd taken the time to learn bits from him!

    If we bought an old pickup for a few grand we would then have the cost of finding a luton body and transporting it here and then I wouldn't even know where to begin when it came to fitting it to the chassis. Plus after all that I imagine I'd end up with a base vehicle that weighed even more meaning my payload for fitting it out was even less!

    I do see your point about the ecu though and having the ability to carry out repairs and maintenance myself when out on the road.

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    For overlanding without a 4x4 I'd consider getting a swb Merc 508, down classing it and fitting a rear diff-lock. That's got enough oompf, ground clearance and age to get you most places. On the note of ECUs, I would really recommend getting something without. There's a good chance a bush mechanic in the middle of nowhere can bodge his or her way around most things on a 30year old diesel merc, not so much on something that requires specialist diagnostics kit that might not yet have made it to backwater Pakistan.

    On that note, does anyone know of a 4x4 7.5ton or bigger vehicle for sale for reasonable money? I need a new home.

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    What are my options for a 3.5 Luton without ECU? (I think we'd struggle in a space any smaller than a Luton offers)

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    Pretty much anything pre 1999.

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    I really don't have a clue of your budget, but have a look at getting a C1 licence and going for something a bit bigger. proper trucks are generally a lot stronger as well as being bigger than light vans and can take more abuse. the weight of your tatt really does add up with a family and there are some pretty sweet deals on older pre 99 non LEZ compliant vehicles.

    you will loose a bit on fuel economy, but not as much as you think as a loaded to the gills 3.5 tonne luton isn't the most fuel effecient vehicle around anyway.

    you can also have space and weight to add extra fuel and water tanks which would be invaluable on a long trip.
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    I was all ready to start my project and now you've got me thinking... I've just been googling c1 licenses, looks like HGV is a similar price (about 1.5k). It would make things easier but I've not even got a regular driving license yet and that's a lot of money.

    Budget was about 5k, half for vehicle and half to convert it.
    Still waiting on the log book for the Luton but once it comes I may try selling it and see if there are any takers, if not I'll just have to hope it sees us through.

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    I think there are better deals than 1.5k for a C1.

    Why not walk before you can run. do up what you have and do a grand tour of europe with it. If you don't have a reg licence yet you will be paying a budget blowing fortune for insurance to drive out of europe anyway. You can get cheap breakdown and repatriation insurance for your vehicle and family right up to the Caucasus mountain range.

    if it is your kettle of kippers, go more adventurous at a later date.
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    Why is it called the NomadicMissionary by the way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subgenre View Post
    Why is it called the NomadicMissionary by the way?
    God's called us to be missionaries and that for us is going to involve some travelling. We don't know exactly where God wants us yet but I know our lives wont be spent in the uk.

    I'm not sure where the idea of going via van first came from but it's an idea that's grown and I've been unable to shake off. I'd like to see some of the UK before we leave, preaching from town to town and linking with local churches. We may never return and I've visited little of my country so far.

    I thought going by van would give our plans chance to develop on route in a way that jumping on a plane may not have.

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    What particular brand of Christianity do you preach?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sootyfoot View Post
    Just a little tip for anyone planning a long trip or any trip when there is a mechanical failure.

    If travelling and you break down and need to fix things, unless it is an emergency and you are in a precarious or dangerous situation.....STOP Put the kettle on, make a brew, enjoy....smoke em if u got em, and then...only then.... Start on the repair.
    You would be amazed how much more rational you are and able to cope with stressful situations when the mind has had 15 or 20 mins to just let the gears spin down from flat out near panic mode.
    And having the kettle on and ready if you have some assistance coming makes them a lot more co-operative and helpful, from experience
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    Quote Originally Posted by Subgenre View Post
    What particular brand of Christianity do you preach?
    I belong to a Pentecostal church but work with all kinds of Christians. I don't preach a particular brand of Christianity but the message of Jesus as found in the bible.

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    So I chiselled around the screws and managed to prise the floor up and found this. I expected an aluminum floor under the wood similar to the walls but instead there's just fresh air. Is that normal?

    If I 5mm ply straight over, batton/insulation then lay t&g or ply is it not likely to rot through from underneath?
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    Mine is like that, there are small sheets of alloy above the rear wheels on mine to stop road spray directly hitting the wood. If the floor had sheet aluminium under I think the water would get in and not dry out causing it to rot faster.
    When I brought mine I looked underneath and the wood floor looked good, it was only when I looked inside that I saw the floor was rotten from transporting horses.
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    So all the floors up at last! (I'll attach a picture tomorrow). I ended up drilling/chiseling around all the screws and prising the boards up. I've invested in some decent power tools and a pair of mole grips (brilliant tool). Just got a few screws left to jiggle out and then the next job will be prepping/painting the chassis.

    Do you think I'll get away with regular 6mm ply with a good coat of Bitumen on for the floor rather than marine ply?

    I found a local breakers yard (Newcastle under Lyme) and visited today to get some ideas:

    http://www.ktgcaravansandcampers.com/

    I'd certainly recommend the place and the couple that run it were extremely helpful. It has convinced me that I really do dislike plastic caravan stuff though. I think I'll go for small glass windows where possible.

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    6mm ply is way to thin for a floor, get the thickest ply you can , thin is a false economy !
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