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Thread: Greyhound racing banned in NSW.

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    Greyhound racing banned in NSW.

    I think we would all agree that Greyhound racing is an activity for morons. In NSW the Liberal (conservative) State Government has now banned greyhound racing and the legislation was opposed by Labor.
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    Originally Posted by Duckman
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    I think we would all agree that Greyhound racing is an activity for morons.
    I thought it was an activity for racing dogs .............

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    Actually, moron racing. That's a good idea!
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    Banning greyhound racing, that's another good idea. In the short term I worry it will mean the end for many healthy dogs.
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    Greyhound racing is not an activity for morons. Maltreating dogs is an activity for morons.


    Nothing wrong with greyhound racing itself. Perfectly healthy life for a dog.
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    greyhound racing was always the sport of the working class, hence "going to the dogs" of a Friday night.
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    Originally Posted by Change
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    Greyhound racing is not an activity for morons. Maltreating dogs is an activity for morons.


    Nothing wrong with greyhound racing itself. Perfectly healthy life for a dog.
    It's a very short working life though. Even the best don't get past five on the track. Greyhounds live to over fourteen.
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    Well, if it is banned the breed will probably disappear. What will replace a night at the dogs, a bag of chips and a little flutter?

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    The breed won't disappear they are used for hunting and crossing with others to create a lurcher as you are probably well aware, but even if it did cease it is better that for the thousands of individual dogs that have a life of misery after the track days are over, than humans being upset because they can't have a beer and a bit of scran trying to win a few bob, you could always come up with something else to pass the time.
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    Originally Posted by wurzel
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    The breed won't disappear they are used for hunting and crossing with others to create a lurcher
    exactly my point. They would disappear into the lurcher population, not a bad outcome IMO.
    you could always come up with something else to pass the time.
    I'm trying to give it up, dammit!
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    Honiton is full of greyhounds, just walk down the high street and you'll see loads, I wonder if there is a greyhound rescue place near there? or maybe greyhounds are just "in" at the moment.
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    Says approx 8000 dogs retire every year and they have rehomed over 75,000 dogs since they've been in business, and that's just the uk.

    What about the dogs that don't make it as far as the track...how many are there and where do they go?

    I don't think we should be breeding animals for sport. Then again I don't agree with GM dogs to fit into breed specifications, the concept of 'pets' (even though, hypocritically, I'd love to have a companion animal) and many other things that I generally keep to myself because no one wants to hear it and I just alienate myself from the majority of the populous.

    I don't agree that the breed would disappear, how many breeds do we have without using them for sport? People still have ridgebacks and they're not hunting lions.

    Just because 'we' have always done something doesn't make it right.
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    I have more than a little knowledge of the whole industry that stems from my mother running off to live with a guy that owned/trained and kenneled racing dogs when I was about 7 years old, she lived with him for next 30 odd years in a large detached house , the rear garden of which was almost totally block built kennels and 4 small paddocks that were used throughout the day to exercise the dogs on a rota until evening time when they went for either a few miles walk on a lease or occasionally taken to a fairly remote field to run wild.
    The dogs there were a mix of stepfathers own racers (usually about 4 or 5),dogs being kenneled for other owners (maybe a dozen or so as the stadium was literally a 3 minute walk away) and the rest were retired either through being too old or to slow or sometimes just too unpredictable , ie could sometimes leap out the trap and beat anything with 4 legs and sometimes just sit there licking its nuts as the gate opened ...... ALL of the dogs were treated with the same high level of respect , care and comfort . My Ma would be up at 5am EVERY morning 365 days a year in all weathers handing out their breakfast bowls (cabbage,dry mix soaked in warm water and minced boiled horse meat )and warm milk with honey,they always got a digestive biscuit when finished ,sometimes the trainers would wonder why the dogs were heavier than they would like , Ma cared more for the hounds than their trainers .
    One dog sticks in my mind , kennel name was Benjie and one evning on the track he went down on a corner badly breaking his front leg , officials and stadium vet wanted him put down track side , my mum was having none if it 'I have seen lots of dogs with 3 legs' , sure enough the leg was amputated at the shoulder and they both spent a horrendous few weeks with mum sleeping in the kennel alongside him most nights as the bleeding was heavy but random , Benjie recovered and lived another 8 years or so as a family pet, Iused to walk him loads when he only had the 3 legs but he did still want to go fast so i would run with him then suddenly his one front leg would let him down (literally let him down on his chin) so he had a constant road rash from that but his smiling face when the lead came out was priceless , he would actually put his remaining front paw on my shoulder when i reached for the lead
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    So to conclude, there are nasty peeps in every aspect of animal 'ownership' but there are also some very caring ,sensitive and sensible peeps and its NO different in greyhound racing.

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    Originally Posted by vanwoman84
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    It's a very short working life though. Even the best don't get past five on the track. Greyhounds live to over fourteen.
    that is true enough but a lot do go on to become much loved family pets and for good reason , they are great dogs , you have to think that some puppies bought at crimbo as a pet dont make it past 5 months before they make it to the dog pound/motorway or the bottom of the canal ...............................
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    I would not for a minute suggest all trainers dump their dogs on the nearest motorway or knock them on the head when they reach four.
    The kind of people that do that would be off in a heartbeat if racing became illegal. That's what it's all about.
    Like so many things, it's the few that spoils it for the many.

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    greyhounds make excellent pets, my late MIL had one for years, watching him "work" a hedge was priceless.
    they don't need lots of exercise contrary to popular belief, they are quite happy curled up on the settee.
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    Why did it get banned in NSW? Do the same arguments apply here?

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    My uncle owned greyhounds for racing and they retired gracefully as pets. I'm a big animal lover and have a lot of rescue animals but I still enjoyed the track as a kid. Greyhounds are incredibly lazy dogs and really don't like exercise for long periods of time...hence a mad sprint round the track really suits them. I had a saluki that was exactly the same and now I have a podenco (traditionally used for hunting in Spain). Both breeds super lazy and greedy but a mad 5 mins of craziness seems to go down well. I think it's like anything, some people are responsible and some are not.
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    Greyhounds. 30 mph couch potatoes.
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    my Mums last dog was a retired racer named JJ, said dog was laid on the floor once and Earl was loose in da hoose , i put a plate with some sponge cake on the floor next to JJ Earl swooped and they did sharing cake for a while , was quite surreal seeing a big dog doing that lift a head a bit to eat thing and a birdy pecking like mad .....then JJ made the effort to lift his head proper and pick the final big piece of cake , E arl was having none of that and promply stuck HIS WHOLE HEAD in to JJ's mouth to retrieve it , dog just opened his jaws and let him get on ..................
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    Originally Posted by Brynhyffryd
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    Why did it get banned in NSW? Do the same arguments apply here?
    A special commission of inquiry found overwhelming evidence of horrific animal cruelty, including mass greyhound killings (68,000 in 12 months) and using live bait. Obviously it's not everyone but that is an awful lot of dogs...
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    Good news hopefully other places will follow suit. Animals being used and abused for our entertainment needs to be a thing of the past ..
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    Originally Posted by emmadilemma
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    Good news hopefully other places will follow suit. Animals being used and abused for our entertainment needs to be a thing of the past ..
    Blimey, better not mention that film I watched last night, the things they did to that goat...

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    [QUOTE=Treemeister;1494295]A special commission of inquiry found overwhelming evidence of horrific animal cruelty, including mass greyhound killings (68,000 in 12 months) and using live bait. Obviously it's not everyone but that is an awful lot of dogs...[/


    While cruelty exists in many shapes, forms and places my experience of 'special commissions' is that they produce the results that the people funding them want to put forward. The other thing, is that animal cruetly is the topic that really gets to people (me included!) yet why don't we feel the same outrage when we see people (especially children) locked in entournment camps and suffering horrific conditions?
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    Originally Posted by ayami
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    Blimey, better not mention that film I watched last night, the things they did to that goat...
    was it perchance ' revenge of billy the kid' ?


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