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Thread: WAR / ISIS / RUSSIA

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    WAR / ISIS / RUSSIA

    Has the west funded isis
    has western press kept quiet about it
    is vlad right.

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    One thing you can say about Putin is that when questioned, he doesn't jump in on the defense, neither does he faff around and only give half an answer like most politicians do. He seems to give a direct answer and acts like a man who has nothing to hide.
    He is either very good at what he does, or an very good actor.
    Any resemblance to actual persons living, dead, or undead, is purely coincidental

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    I predicted another war 20 years ago. People are blind to what is going on, for years I've felt like the only person who does know what has been going on. The media plants shite into people's heads, you only have to read news about famous people wearing certain fashions for then to see that people go out and buy the same sort of thing, people are completely brainwashed and too trusting. If the media gains trust through minor crap then of course they can cover big things up. It comes on the news about a big film star dying or a divorce happening and everyone goes crazy! when there really is more going on in the world at the same time but it doesn't get noticed. Does that make sense? Have I got what you are saying or am I totally off the subject lol


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    I'm always suspicious of anything that Alex Jones is involved with - that man can create a conspiracy out of a doorknob!
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    Yeah, I think he's laying it on too thick. Putin is right about who funded what became eventually became Isis, and why, though.

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    I don't think that the West directly armed us brave jihadi daeshbags , but they did arm and train the Iraqi army whom in a lot of cases retreated and left their arms behind , guns, missiles ,tanks ,humvees etc . Qatar , Saudi and Turkey are thought to have directly funded and armed Isis . In Syria these nations and others , alongside the U.S and some Western nations have directly armed and trained so called moderate rebels in an effort to bring about regime change . A large number of these moderates aren't particularly moderate and are Islamist jihadi's and instead of fighting isis defected to them and took the weapons with them or sold them to other jihadi groups who fight alongside with and form alliances/ pledge allegiance to other jihadi militias and brigades fighting against Assads regime.
    This is a bit of a simplification of a very complex issue.

    A lot weapons have also come from Libya . After overthrowing the Gaddafi regime , the rebels and jihadi factions looted huge amounts of arms.
    There is also a wikileaks story about Hilary Clinton ,Benghazi and arms shipped to Syria from Libya .

    A good piece here on the origins of Isis from The Grauniad -

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    A couple of good sources on middle east issues , reporting from on the ground /frontlines in Iraq and Syria ,


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    Libyan arms -

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    Hilary wikileaks -

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    It's a bit like saying that the IRA was funded by the USA whilst being UK allies......you could probably qualify that it's factional, covert, support rather than implying that it is overtly condoned by the aforementioned countries.....but I may be splitting hairs......it's certainly something that does not appear in mainstream media......well said....very brave.

    Course there is more going on here.....Assad is despised by Western nations and there is history with Israel that is played down in this case.

    Why would Russia become involved? ....other than to point out the interference and hippocricy.

    AL Quaeda and Isis camps were expelled from Saudi because they were counterproductive to Oil profiteering and US alliances. Russia is calling it bullshit....Assad should be deposed and Isis should fuck off but who will they attack instead.

    It's easy to say stuff about militarised nations. .....like Israel should never have been created and Christianity should never have been exported and countries should never have been invaded.

    Brexit is a risky business when put in the context of our forbears attempting to rule the world.
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