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    Cannabis ingredient to be classed as medicine

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    A cannabis ingredient is set to be classed as medicine in the UK.
    The Medicines & Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) said cannabis-based ingredient cannabidiol - also known as CBD - is an effective medicine in calming people down.
    The MHRA said it had initially looked at CBD because a number of manufacturing companies had been making "overt medicinal claims" about products.
    Gerald Heddel, director of inspection and enforcement at the agency, told Sky News: "The change really came about with us offering an opinion that CBD is in fact a medicine, and that opinion was based on the fact that we noted that people were making some quite stark claims about serious diseases that could be treated with CBD."
    Most people in the UK have previously obtained supplies online in an unregulated and potentially unsafe market, but the decision means manufacturers will now need to demonstrate their CBD products meet safety, quality and effectiveness standards.

    Another change of heart after Sativex.

    My other half has advanced MS and is now in a home but whilst she was in my care I tried for Sativex which is made in Bucks if memory serves me but the powers that be, tossers said no while it was available in other parts of the country and freely available abroad.

    It will be interesting to see if CBD will have the same problems of distribution for those that need it.
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    Wow......The Nanny state may consider allowing medicinal use......Police already know that a small (maybe 5 plants) cannabis grow wont even get to court........Our judiciary actually displays much sense......shame on politicians and nanny state (would be) dictators who simply cannot accept that their trite capitalising fascism is FUCKING needless and oppressive.

    Still gotta be able and willing to handle an official caution though and that is not good enough.

    It is despicable arrogance that the police and judiciary are ignored by politicians in favour of daily mail oppresionists who will push for right wing profiteering for ever and ever AND god forbid anyone who disagrees because you will be subject to investigation by anti terrorist/radicalisation legislature and have to suffer the consequences while these puffed up, profiteering tits cream themselves with coin derived from oppression.
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    Its no business of anyone else what you choose to do with your body.
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    In USA Cannibis is Grown Purely For Medicine Esp Pain Relief And Calming Nervous Systems Esp Neuropathic Pain ....Its Openly Legal...You Go To Say Like A Big Shop That Just Sells Medicinal Cannabis....Which Is Paid And Grown And Produced And Promoted By The Big Drug Companies.

    The People Who Go There And Buy And Use These Places Have Sort Of Medicine ID Cards ...Which They Have To Show That It Is Being Purchased For Medicine Purposes Only ....

    So What Upsets Me Is "Why" Could They Not Do Something Like That Here? ....As Sooo Many People Would Get Relief And Peace Of No Constant Pain And Find Relief......As Yes You Can Get A Sort Of Man Made Fiddled With Part Of Cannibis Here On Prescription But It Is NOT The Same As The "Real Fresh Grown" As There Is A Lot Of Difference.....Which Is So Sad As It Can And Could Help So Many People To Feel And Have A Better Quality Of Life ..Even If It Just A Small Bit To A Large Bit Of Help And Peace....Because Relief And Peace Could Mean Everything To Anybody Who Sadly Has To Struggle Day To Day To Find Some Peace And Freedom Of Pain Etc...

    But Off Course The REAL Reason "WHY NOT" And Why They Say "NO" Is Because Of The Mahoosive Trillions..And Billions The Big Giant Drug Companies Make Selling Their Chemical Tablets And Drugs.......They Dont Care About Anything ..The People Etc Noooo They Only Care About The "MONEY" ...

    As we all know that Many Plants..Herbs Etc Etc For Hundreds Of Years Were The "ONLY TRUE" Medicines...And People Were Healed And Treated And Helped Using Them ...
    That Is Until The "Big Drug Companies" Came Along Saw A Great Way To Get Fatter And So Made Certain Herbs..Plants Etc "ILLEGAL" To Use Or Buy For Any Medicine Purposes Sadly ....
    And So Sadly Again It Is The People That Suffer For Their Greed.
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    if cannabis was effective at reducing my constant pain I would self administer it regardless of any unlawful consequences. Unfortunately, other than distracting my mind from the pain temporarily (much the same as alcohol did) it's pretty piss pure as a pain relief medicine for me personally. I've enjoyed smoking cannabis recreationally (for fun) pretty much since I was a teenager.
    So if pharma companies can extract, package the active compounds from cannabis, that only target pain receptors and relax muscles. That would be great. If loads of medical patients claimed getting pissed on strong alcohol reduced their symptoms. Would advocating alcohol on prescription be viewed with the same open mindedness?
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    Inversion therapy can help with pain,illness and many many other problems,should the good herb become ineffective,please DO check it out,if you need help or advice on this superb therapy,please do not hesitate to ask me,i have over 7 years experience of inverting myself and others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfie View Post
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    Another change of heart after Sativex.

    My other half has advanced MS and is now in a home but whilst she was in my care I tried for Sativex which is made in Bucks if memory serves me but the powers that be, tossers said no while it was available in other parts of the country and freely available abroad.

    It will be interesting to see if CBD will have the same problems of distribution for those that need it.

    This is great, Wulfie, thank you so much for posting By funny coincidence a friend in the States sent me some info about this a few days ago as it's used in some States there and when I looked it up online it was apparent that the same options weren't available here. Will be a big step forward for a lot of people, I think. Were you not able to try Sativex at all? My friend sent me the info as my son's epilepsy is so problematic at the moment (there have been some good results in the States with this and hard to treat epilepsy). Will be keeping my eyes on this, very handy to have another option to add to the list, thanks for posting it
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    Quote Originally Posted by nomis View Post
    Inversion therapy can help with pain,illness and many many other problems,should the good herb become ineffective,please DO check it out,if you need help or advice on this superb therapy,please do not hesitate to ask me,i have over 7 years experience of inverting myself and others.
    That's interesting as well, Nomis, hadn't heard of this before. Did a quick search and found this site:

    http://www.inversiontherapy.net/

    Is that a good place to start? If so will read up on it a bit Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by alices wonderland View Post
    if cannabis was effective at reducing my constant pain I would self administer it regardless of any unlawful consequences. Unfortunately, other than distracting my mind from the pain temporarily (much the same as alcohol did) it's pretty piss pure as a pain relief medicine for me personally. I've enjoyed smoking cannabis recreationally (for fun) pretty much since I was a teenager.
    So if pharma companies can extract, package the active compounds from cannabis, that only target pain receptors and relax muscles. That would be great. If loads of medical patients claimed getting pissed on strong alcohol reduced their symptoms. Would advocating alcohol on prescription be viewed with the same open mindedness?
    Sativa or Indica? Sativa is the one that makes you more stoned n giggly, the indica is better for pain. Most strains now are hybrids 60/40


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    I use an old Teeter hang ups F7000 inversion table,you can find them second hand on Gumtree for as little as 50.
    Inversion therapy has been around for over 2000 years,since before JC wore shorts,so the chap in your post didn`t invent it in 1993.

    It has been kept a secret,because it really works,BUT ,you really DO need to follow some rules.

    Don`t invert on your own until you are comfortable with using a table,if you don`t set the safety limiting strap,you can find yourself "locked out"upside down,which can be very scary,disorientating and indeed dangerous.

    Make sure you take everything out of your pockets,chains from around your neck and glasses off before you invert,they will all fall out/off as you invert.

    Don`t do too much too soon,build up inversion times gradually,it will take a while,it can cause light headedness,blood rush to the head and i have seen fainting if to much to soon,so great care is needed.

    Have a good read up around the net,there are plenty of videos on the tube of you,many of them taking the P and people being stupid,so caution.

    https://teetertv.com/
    Teeter is medical grade equipment,superb quality but not cheap if bought new.

    Take it seriously,it`s no joke.It saved my life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sootyfoot View Post
    Sativa or Indica? Sativa is the one that makes you more stoned n giggly, the indica is better for pain. Most strains now are hybrids 60/40
    thankfully I've a wide group of friends and specialist growers. I've been very fortunate over the years I've tried many cultivars within the species, many variants of processed cannabis. From bubble hash to grass oils. Often having a constant variety to turn to. I stopped smoking cannabis (recreationally) 5 years ago. I had my last spliff this Christmas Eve. .
    I've tried the patches, linctus and drops.
    I'm only 5miles from Sativex HQ (no they won't help me)

    12 years ago consultants at the hospital were interested in any benefits I may be getting from using cannabis. Several even suggested I try it. I was honest with them and told them I found very little benefit. Don't get me wrong. I want cannabis to be legalised, decriminalised and made available for medicinal use available on prescription for those who may find it useful.
    Before my injury. I just wanted it legalised for medicinal use.
    I'm actively communicating with patients and growers who "specialise" in cultivating cannabis for health and pain relief benefits and hope that one of them will produce something beneficial for my condition.
    I won't turn to smack, but if anyone out there thinks they may have a strain or sample they want me to try, please do get in touch. I gave up smoking tobacco on the grounds it can reduce blood flow to body tissue. Didn't reduce the pain though, even three years on.

    I had a handrail fixed to the ceiling to hang off of and my kids bunkbed was a makeshift apparatus for stretching my spine (hooking both arms over the top of the bunkbed ladder) and allowing the weight of my legs to open up my vertebrae when hanging did help.
    The idea of me getting stuck halfway upside down on a large ball or supported by a human does not appeal.
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    Steve, I've had a dodgy back for years too, nothing like as bad yours mate, and I know you've probably tried every treatment out there.
    But what about Spinal Touch? I have a good friend who's bloody brilliant at that stuff, does a lot of work with horses too, and he really has helped me no end

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    AW,you wouldn`t believe how much it has changed my life squire,i suffered for over 9 years on various prescribed pain killers,they got stronger and stronger and eventually did nothing at all apart from make me feel sick and wobbly,i tried just about everything in the book i could find,one of my lower discs was literally bursting out from my lower back,i had big sores on my elbows from trying to sit up straight,taking all my upper body weight on my elbows,going to sleep in agony,waking up in agony,generally screwed.

    My GP sent me to a specialist,he said i only had one option,to go under the knife and have my discs fused together,i decided a quiet death was more preferable and set about making plans for that.

    When a good friend turned up out of the blue and told me about inversion therapy,he had an inversion table he used (not a ball or dangling off another human)as he had had a stroke and it can also help with blood circulation in the upper body/head,helping repair damage from a stroke,he didn`t like using it though (it is an odd feeling),so was just sat doing nothing,he nipped up home,grabbed it,we set it up in my kitchen.

    The very first time i used it,i could hardly stand up,but managed to climb on,i wizzed myself totally upside down and felt my disc pop back into line,all the pain just went,there and then,since then,i have been working again,i mean grafting too,when i have over done it a bit,i might invert 5 or 6 times in a day,for from 30 seconds to say 3 minutes a time or so,i have managed to rebuild my core strength,my guts work better,no more pain killers,no more anti acids.

    When i get back on the road,i will travel around and offer my services to anyone wanting to try it out,the main thing is patience,for some people it doesn`t work straight away,it can take a few goes at it.
    Then use as needed when needed.
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    Wow, I'm impressed. I over do it and Im my worst enemy. I have tread mills, electric beds, elrctric wheelchair, a 500cc Woodstar ATV (quad) that cost new over 11,000 I've managed to go 400 yard in it in 8 years. I've got a adapted transfer car. Two years ago I couldn't start my chainsaw if it wasn't first pull. I get through by the skin of my teeth. I'm booked in with the pain clinic down here now so I will ask about inversion with physio support. My last scan looked promising. I really need to build up my core muscles.
    You should take it to Dovedale. I'll bring the drugs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GivingItThought View Post
    Were you not able to try Sativex at all?
    No. It was for the other half who had MS and her cuntsultant wouldn't sign her for it despite it being approved by NICE just like other stuff he refused her for. Couldn't afford it but I went private for the other drugs, which didn't work then but which she is now getting. Her specialist MS nurse hinted at cannabis as a lot of her patients used it but her who must be obeyed refused it as it was illegal

    It's a postcode lottery for being prescribed certain drugs and if we'd been in Wales she'd have had it. She's still on max dose baclofen, the supposed alternative to sativex (she has a variety of symptoms) and will shortly have an epidural phenol injection.
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    A friend smoked cannabis almost every day for many years. He'd been doing it for years before I met him through a mutual friend, and I always thought his slightly unusual mannerisms / movements were a result of the years of smoking. He decided to turn over a new leaf and give it up, within a year he was suffering badly with MS and sadly died of a heart attack a few years later.

    I believe the cannabis had been masking ( or perhaps even suppressing) the MS for years, all anecdotal of course, I'm not a doctor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle jhad View Post
    Steve, I've had a dodgy back for years too, nothing like as bad yours mate, and I know you've probably tried every treatment out there.
    But what about Spinal Touch? I have a good friend who's bloody brilliant at that stuff, does a lot of work with horses too, and he really has helped me no end
    I've been using it for many years. I've had some of the top skilled professionals helping me. I use (touching) myself when all else fails. I've been selected for (free) treatment with a Doctor in the USA. He was looking for case studies from around the world. I was put forward. He wanted to work online trialing a rehabilitation delivery programme with 18 patients. He chose me from the UK. He waved his payments as he understood I'm not good for $10,000 per course & NHS won't fund it yet. The only problem so far is the video consultancy. I'm having to go online between 2.00am and 5.00am GMT. Then he tells me he is off to a dentist appointment or he is off surfing. Strange world we move in. He is training NHS staff and Consultants here in the UK to make life easier in the future. There's a lot of well meaning quangos that will take a patients money.
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    Bring your friend to Dovedale the more the merrier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alices wonderland View Post
    Bring your friend to Dovedale the more the merrier.
    Oh you'd like Ian

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    Do any of you take/use a particular strain of Indica regularly that you would recommend I try? Years ago we would have to go to the hedgerow witch, these days we call on the spare bedroom witch or wizard.
    Feel free to pm me. I prefer a tried and tested strain that continues to be propagated from cuttings.

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    Ive used 3 different brands of high strength CBD oil from the US acquired for me by a friend there and non of it was at all cheap and non of it provided much noticeable relief even when i deliberately maxed out on the dosing.I was better off on maximum dose Tramadol/Codeine combo in all honesty.Id rather use weed than CBD oil (which i also have to say isnt that pleasant to take regularly).
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    Quote Originally Posted by NomadicRT View Post
    Ive used 3 different brands of high strength CBD oil from the US acquired for me by a friend there and non of it was at all cheap and non of it provided much noticeable relief even when i deliberately maxed out on the dosing.I was better off on maximum dose Tramadol/Codeine combo in all honesty.Id rather use weed than CBD oil (which i also have to say isnt that pleasant to take regularly).
    The problem with codeine is when ya take enuff to do the job..ya can't shit for a week!


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    Quote Originally Posted by alices wonderland View Post
    I prefer a tried and tested strain that continues to be propagated from cuttings.
    Reminded me of "Freindship" cake,
    https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=fr...ip+cake+recipe

    Thread needed mention of good munchies.


    Dovedale= noted and will try my best to be there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sootyfoot View Post
    The problem with codeine is when ya take enuff to do the job..ya can't shit for a week!
    Tell me about it,i was on them both for 15 years plus 500mg paracetamol to max allowed.It was screwing up my liver and me.Took ages to wean myself off them all and dont take them at all now.Im still in pain but id rather have that than be like a friggin zombie and having withdrawal symptoms as soon as the dose in my system dropped slightly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alices wonderland View Post
    I really need to build up my core muscles.
    worked for me after wrecking my back, took a while. NHS useless at backs.
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