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Thread: Rent out Your Van when not in use

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    Quote Originally Posted by treestump View Post
    Wouldn't quirky campers have some sort of contract to put the van back to the way it was so if it got damaged by someone they would have to fix or restore it?
    No idea...i wouldnt even consider renting my van out so ive not looked at the site....If i was off on a long trek around the world for months on end id rather sell my van and buy another when(if) I returned here.
    I dont want the hassle or frustration of knowing its been abused or had to be repaired and for the same reason id never buy an ex hire company vehicle.
    People almost never look after things they borrow in the same way they would if they own them.....nope..renting out is not an option id consider for a van of mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wandering gypsy View Post
    5 grand deposit, a grand a week, all/any damage to be paid for. cash upfront and your nubile daughter as hostage
    Better idea, any damage to the van then the same is exacted on the daughter.

    Im going to lend them mine and hope someone smashes the back doors in...
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    Yeah i guess if you are attached to your van, its your pride and joy and you have spent time living in it.
    You wouldn't want to risk renting it out to some carefree festival goer who will potentially bring it back wrecked.

    On the other hand if you are beginning a new adventure and you are off to another country, perhaps you dont want to sell your van then its a viable alternative. But the emotional attachment you have with vehicle your motor would have to be minimal to do this.
    Had a look at quirky campers - good wee idea. Good luck to them.
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    Im.not dissing the idea im just saying its not something i would do.I think its probably like gambling or playing the stock market,you only gamble what you can afford to potentially lose and not be phased by it.If the van is all you own and potentially youd struggle to replace or repair it then maybe hiring it out wouldnt be such a great idea....and as you said.it also depends on how much attachment you have to the van and the work you put into building it.
    Im not particularly attached to mine its just a van but i couldnt afford the risk of hiring it out.If anything went wrong id be screwed.No doubt some people do ok from it or the quirky company wouldnt be in business.

    From another angle,if you dont live in your van and its idle a lot of the time and thus free to be rented out then whats to stop you doing it yourself arrange your own insurance cover and legals and marketing and cut out the commission youre going to be paying 'quirky'.
    These kind of specialist hire companies started years back renting out hardly used classic cars and although some are still doing very well a lot of owners found they could do the renting out themselves,have more flexibility in the use of their own vehicle and make more money per hire out than through an agency.

    To be honest though and as spicky said if youre living full time in a van the scheme isnt going to be much use to you.
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    What about unpaid camera fines etc

    People who have rented out their places on air B+B have found out later that the renter has used the address to set up identity fraud scams, take out loans and apply for credit cards that they then default on. Also they have used the address to sell stolen cars from etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernie View Post
    What about unpaid camera fines etc

    People who have rented out their places on air B+B have found out later that the renter has used the address to set up identity fraud scams, take out loans and apply for credit cards that they then default on. Also they have used the address to sell stolen cars from etc.
    It would be daft do do it from your own
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    Quote Originally Posted by ma bungo View Post
    It would be daft do do it from your own
    I have to bow to your superior knowledge in these matters Ha Ha!

    but for the person having rented out the room its no fun having to fend off bailiffs and debt collectors knocking on your door for the next ten years trying to seize your goods.

    These bailiffs are not like you see on the TV, doing it by the rules. The real ones will just push you out of the way and walk in.
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    Firstly, no one would pay to stay in my van.
    Secondly, they would have to pry the keys from my cold, dead hands.

    Harry! You could do one of the vans up and rent it out!
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    True.The last house we were in was an ex "seized repossession" house, rented out and baliffs,threats,letters were still coming for the ex tenants 5 YEARS on.They just thought we were lying about not being them, despite being shown bills,council tax stuff and sent to the council to check.The ex tenants were also still getting goods billed to our address for 2 months and picking them up from us claiming it was a mistake until we realised .Total scumbag cons.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bernie View Post
    I have to bow to your superior knowledge in these matters Ha Ha!

    but for the person having rented out the room its no fun having to fend off bailiffs and debt collectors knocking on your door for the next ten years trying to seize your goods.

    These bailiffs are not like you see on the TV, doing it by the rules. The real ones will just push you out of the way and walk in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernie View Post
    I have to bow to your superior knowledge in these matters Ha Ha!

    but for the person having rented out the room its no fun having to fend off bailiffs and debt collectors knocking on your door for the next ten years trying to seize your goods.

    These bailiffs are not like you see on the TV, doing it by the rules. The real ones will just push you out of the way and walk in.
    I would agree that all the bailiffs that I have experienced were no angels , but they always bought the police with them in my dealings , and that has a somewhat calming effect on them , in fact they have known to be helpful, one lot even fetched a landrover and towed us 300 yards off a field , but then refused to give us a tow to get our truck started , that's when the police stepped in and helpfully tow started us with their transit .in fact they were so helpful ,they gave us a police escort for 10 miles out of the borough to make sure we did not break down !
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    seems like it might be a good way to supplement your income if you like building things, just build a van specifically to rent out and make sure the contract and insurance are up to scratch.

    If something bad does happen well then it was just a van and you're covered for damages and if nothing does you may recoup the cost and make a little extra over a few rentals. People are often asking how they can make money on the road, well a couple of rental vans would keep you in money for the summer i dare say.
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    Surely, anyone who has the money to rent a van would just go out and buy one? Unless we are talking about mega expensive holiday vans

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernie View Post
    Surely, anyone who has the money to rent a van would just go out and buy one? Unless we are talking about mega expensive holiday vans
    Not everyone wants to own a van, aside from practical issues like having somewhere to park it and having to pay for its upkeep all year round it's often less hassle to rent something someone else has to look after.

    Guy who comes to a regular meet up i go to once a year always rents a camper van for the long weekend, but that's the only time he ever uses one so the 500 odd quid he spends on it is still cheaper than owning one.
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    sometimes a campervan /motorhome hire is for a real special event , Glasto one year I was parked up inside the wire on a hook up in the disabled parking site , neighbours were in a 100k+ camper that had cost them 1400 quid in rental for 5 days , one of the middle aged couple was in really poor health and just wanted one more festival , this was made possible by the rental camper and hook up for the buggy.....,some times the monetary cost is secondary .
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanwoman84 View Post
    Firstly (and this is printed on the V5) the registered keeper does not prove ownership.
    Secondly, we had a driver that had our van for work, he stopped coming in but kept the van. The police told me that, as he hadn't taken the van, but it had been given it (all be it for the purpose of work) it couldn't be reported stolen. They weren't even that interested when I said the driver was no longer insured as he wasn't working with us any longer.
    Eventually we had to scour the streets where he lived and found the van.
    It's all to do with the definition of theft within the law.
    If a vehicle is handed over via a loan or hire, it's not taken without consent. Even if that consent is withdrawn, it's hard to prove to the police the person who has the vehicle does NOT mean to ever return it.
    Also another fact from the DVLA themselves, they do not store any details on the owner of the vehicle only registered keepers, and you are absolutely right a zoo keeper does not own the zoo, a lighthouse keeper does not own the lighthouse and a park keeper does not own the park that is why the criminals calling themselves part of a government dept. cannot remove the personal belongings of the owner only the registered keeper because they have taken ownership, I have a De-registered car that has been driving around the west midlands for years and never been clamped stopped or impounded.

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    What exactly is involved with de-registering a vehicle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanwoman84 View Post
    What exactly is involved with de-registering a vehicle?
    Remove the vin plate , grind the number off the engine and put the number plate in the bin ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanwoman84 View Post
    What exactly is involved with de-registering a vehicle?
    The DVLA own the plates on the car which is registered as a vehicle when you contact them and tell them you will no longer require any of their products as from now on you will be travelling in your private car, and won't be driving anywhere as driving is in commerce hence why you need to pay tax (Drover) it is a bit more long winded than that but that is the bare bones of it, I still have the letter i sent them somewhere and their reply was I still needed MOT and a full Licence, a friend of mine has been driving for years with DEJURE as his plate and never gets stopped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodstock69 View Post
    The DVLA own the plates on the car which is registered as a vehicle when you contact them and tell them you will no longer require any of their products as from now on you will be travelling in your private car, and won't be driving anywhere as driving is in commerce hence why you need to pay tax (Drover) it is a bit more long winded than that but that is the bare bones of it, I still have the letter i sent them somewhere and their reply was I still needed MOT and a full Licence, a friend of mine has been driving for years with DEJURE as his plate and never gets stopped.
    You'll be telling us next that he has no insurance either....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodstock69 View Post
    The DVLA own the plates on the car which is registered as a vehicle when you contact them and tell them you will no longer require any of their products as from now on you will be travelling in your private car, and won't be driving anywhere as driving is in commerce hence why you need to pay tax (Drover) it is a bit more long winded than that but that is the bare bones of it, I still have the letter i sent them somewhere and their reply was I still needed MOT and a full Licence, a friend of mine has been driving for years with DEJURE as his plate and never gets stopped.
    ?????...am I alone in finding this difficult to comprehend? Perhaps I need to take a crash course in "Woodstockspeak"
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    It is obviously correct, thats why so many people are doing it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by roddew View Post

    ?????...am I alone in finding this difficult to comprehend? Perhaps I need to take a crash course in "Woodstockspeak"
    Don't bother trying, it's bullshit.... There's a lot of this "freeman" twaddle on the interwebs... If they think they can invoke ancient "rights" to travel the highways without registering their vehicles, or paying road tax, then frankly, good luck to them....

    What scares me is what happens if they damage property or worse still, a person... It's morally unjustifiable for them to partake in the dangerous activity of traveling (not "driving", mind) in a motor vehicle, without insuring themselves against any damage they might cause...
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    problem with that is you may be aware of it but average cop and magistrate aint , whilst you are arguing your freeman status other more 'sustainable' charges tend to arise from peeps that that just think you are a law dodging smart arse ............

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodstock69 View Post
    The DVLA own the plates on the car which is registered as a vehicle when you contact them and tell them you will no longer require any of their products as from now on you will be travelling in your private car, and won't be driving anywhere as driving is in commerce hence why you need to pay tax (Drover) it is a bit more long winded than that but that is the bare bones of it, I still have the letter i sent them somewhere and their reply was I still needed MOT and a full Licence, a friend of mine has been driving for years with DEJURE as his plate and never gets stopped.
    How does this relate to the Road Traffic Act 1991? A vehicle can be MOT'd on the chassis number but this has to be displayed on the vehicle. I really don't think you would get away with that in the City of London without being shot at.

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