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Thread: LWB Sprinter Box Build

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    LWB Sprinter Box Build

    OK I'll entertain you all with the lunacy that is the van build. All constructive comments welcome

    So, here is the van, a 2006 LWB 311 Sprinter...
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    Quick trip to the building suppliers later....
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    And the insulation starts....
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    Nice looking van. I'll be following this with interest

    Have you considered wrapping the wool in plastic in case condensation gets through to it?
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    Nice looking van but I'd say it was a brave move using rockwool like that.

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    if rockwool is put in dry and sealed from condensation no problem, did a luton 5 years ago and recently changed a window in it, wool was still in place and dry
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    Quote Originally Posted by wandering gypsy View Post
    if rockwool is put in dry and sealed from condensation no problem, did a luton 5 years ago and recently changed a window in it, wool was still in place and dry
    Id agree, but looking at the pic its rockwool sandwiched behind a bit of ply..

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    Ummmm. Oh. Blox. Didn't realise rock wool was an issue. Given the ply will be sealed with silicone and painted, does that count? Also this is intended as a weekend and summer vehicle not 24/7. Thoughts? It's not to late to pull the ply off and line it with some sort of membrane? Though I'd rather not......

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    If it was me and I was using wool I'd wrap it in bin bags or something first. It will take you a few hours now and then it's done and you have the peace of mind that it's all sealed should any condensation build up behind the ply. If you're not full timing in it I would imagine condensation is less of an issue but it's still a risk you take.

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    Last time i used rockwool i wrapped in sealed bin bags as suggested above and didnt have a problem. The first time i used rockwool i just stuffed it in, and it all got damp. I did a lot of other things wrong on that build as well, and it was a small van so it could have only been a minor part of the problem.
    Of course it may not matter at all, different people have different thoughts and experiences and WanderingGypsy has built a lot more vehicles than i have. However now is the best time to find out before you've done too much..

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    I may have mentioned before, I love boxvans and Luton conversions, I love the space you get, it's so usable with the extra height and width!
    Yawn I'm so tired with this big bag of coal on my head...
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    Cool! Hope you enjoy many an adventure.

    I used rockwall in mine and sealed it behind a giant layer of plastic sheeting. Wrapping it in bags sounds easier. Best to do it properly once.
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    Yeah I'm getting a huge roll of black bin bags later, and the next few nights will be spent bagging and refitting Happy days.
    Getting the woodburner this weekend and my cheapo solar panel regulator/charger turned up from Amazon today, so, Very Exciting!!!
    Found a leisure battery in the back of the shed which seems to hold a charge (result!) so it's all coming together...
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    Progress....

    Sooo....

    quick update if you're interested.

    Pulled all the Rockwool out and bagged it up and stuffed it back in. On reflection I should probably have used Kingspan. But I had half the Rockwool already, so... anyway. 'Tis done.

    I had a woodburner lined up, a Bohemia X30. As new, 120. Sadly it turned out that it was already sold to someone else. However, Julian to the rescue! I'm off to his workshop tomorrow evening to get one of his burners. Yayness!

    Collected the glass for the doors. Yes yes I know, it will weigh a ton, I'm an idiot, I should use acrylic, etc etc. Well, we'll see if it works, and it will be a learning experience!

    Also whilst I was out yesterday, weighed the van, 2800kg with full fuel, me and the daughter, and the paneling.
    I've done some calcs and reckon with losing the tail lift (the half that is welded to the van) and with judicious packing, should manage an all up weight of 3400kg. With fuel, luggage, water, gas, solar panel, etc.

    I know there's not much leeway there but that does include 100kg for water, so it's always possible to juggle things around. Anyway the weighbridge was free so I'll pop back there as bits get added to see if my calcs are correct.

    So far, undercoated the paneling, painted the doors and made 3 downlights from 12V LED bulbs and plywood.

    Right, here's some pics:
    https://goo.gl/photos/tpALWUKmKHdSw2r39
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    This is my spreadsheet for weights - have I missed anything???
    (Yes I know 100l of water is a lot - one of the events we are going to is in the Pyrenees and there's no water on site)

    Weighbridge Meaurement 4 March 2017
    With me, daughter, full fuel and panelled back Distance F-B
    CG Calculations 3900 mm
    Front: 1380 Rear Front
    Back: 1420 Starting 1420 1380 Total
    Total: 2800 Actual 1872.8 1527.2 3400 kg
    Available 700 Axle limit 2240 1600 3500 kg
    Remaining Weight 100
    Distance Rear Front
    Items to be added: Weight From Rear Moment Moment
    Windows 27 27 -1000 33.92 -6.92
    Doors 51 51 -1000 64.08 -13.08
    Paint Interior 10 estimate 10 1200 6.92 3.08
    Woodburner and flue 80 estimate 80 1200 55.38 24.62
    Bed wood 20 estimate 20 2000 9.74 10.26
    Sofa wood 20 estimate 20 2000 9.74 10.26
    Mattresses 10 estimate 10 2000 4.87 5.13
    Solar panel 25 estimate 25 0 25.00 0.00
    Charge regulator 2 estimate 2 0 2.00 0.00
    Spare wheel 30 estimate 30 -1000 37.69 -7.69
    Water 100litres 110 110 1200 76.15 33.85
    Food and utensils 50 50 -500 56.41 -6.41
    Gas ring and tank 10 estimate 10 0 10.00 0.00
    Leisure Battery 75aH 25 25 1200 17.31 7.69
    Kitchen cupboards 40 estimate 40 -500 45.13 -5.13
    Bedding 50 50 2000 24.36 25.64
    Luggage 40 40 2000 19.49 20.51
    Tech Tat 20 20 -500 22.56 -2.56
    Tools 50 50 1200 34.62 15.38
    Remove tail lift -80 estimate -80 -1400 -108.72 28.72
    Paint Exterior 10 estimate 10 1500 6.15 3.85
    Total Items Added 600 452.82 147.18

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    I wouldn't even know where to begin estimating weight. Looking good though

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    Keeping a real close on on this as this is the type of van i would do.
    The trouble is, you think you have time.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Petew View Post
    Keeping a real close on on this as this is the type of van i would do.
    You would do a box van over a luton?

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    Well he's saved some on the burner and flue! The flue is pretty heavy duty, but I reckon combined with the stove there'e around fifty kilos, so 30 to come off the list!
    Good to meet you Gizz, and I look forward to watching your progress.
    Yawn I'm so tired with this big bag of coal on my head...

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    Not much progress so far this week

    mainly cos the van is down the garage being fettled. Sadly I just don't have time due to work commitments to fix the wobbly wheel bearing and do a service. And stupidly I asked them to check out the running gear and the rest. So. One wheel bearing, one shock, one full set of front bushes, TREs, and 'your rear springs are loose'. That and a full service and fuel filter, 430 plus VAT. OUCH.

    On the other hand it's less likely to fall apart down the road, and will at least pass the MoT in June

    Still needs a bloody spare wheel though ... if anyone knows where I can get one without driving 100 miles?

    So. Here're the only bits that're here at the moment:

    Well I dunno I can't upload photos. So here's a link to the progress.... Again...

    Fitted a door handle. Might not look like much, but... lots of chiseling and stuff
    https://goo.gl/photos/sRPtLqg48aN9zGuF9

    Aaaand glazed the door...
    https://goo.gl/photos/enQxDU1NyjKH1qT97

    Aaannd that's as far as the stove has got
    https://goo.gl/photos/gQZ6vQ6q2YQbhZLe9

    Hopefully more progress tomorrow when the (increasingly expensive!) vehicle returns...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWanderer2023 View Post
    You would do a box van over a luton?
    Not sure, that's why I want to keep an eye on it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Petew View Post
    Not sure, that's why I want to keep an eye on it.

    You can put the bed over the cab in the luton, although now I've put the internal cladding in I've realised sitting up in bed will no longer happen
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWanderer2023 View Post
    You can put the bed over the cab in the luton, although now I've put the internal cladding in I've realised sitting up in bed will no longer happen
    neither will reverse cow-girl , you are gonna have to get used to spooning

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shroom View Post
    neither will reverse cow-girl , you are gonna have to get used to spooning
    Well I'm glad someone else understand, some people think I'm mad for not wanting a bed in the death pod.
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    I had a fling with a lady that owned a 'Laika' sprinter motorhome , we spent one night in the 'hump bump' above the cab , we slept on my bus thereafter and i never entered that crawl space again ........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shroom View Post
    neither will reverse cow-girl , you are gonna have to get used to spooning
    I think I might put in a skylight that opens up totally above the bed to aid these situations, "oh what a lovely view"

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