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Thread: International womens day - Wednesday 8th March

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    International womens day - Wednesday 8th March

    I wasn't sure where to place it but it's two days away.


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    Biji , biji YPJ


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    Today in history, 8 March 1979, Iranian women protested against forced hijab,
    from the next day everyone had to wear it


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    Last edited by likahamadoolihan; 08-03--2017 at 08:09 PM.

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    There's a long way to go in some countries thanks to some inbreds interpretation of religions and still a way to go in so called enlightened communities but it's happening slowly. Peace
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    Gone backwards in some countries


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    Originally Posted by likahamadoolihan
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    Gone backwards in some countries


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    Yes , things have taken a slip back in Afghanistan , but it could have a bit to do with first Russia invading, and then a free for all of invaders . its very sad as its was a beautiful country.

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    Might also , just possibly have something to do with a hardline interpretation of the Qur'an and sharia , as is evident in many if not all muslim majority countries that view a womans worth as half that as a mans. But yes the Russian invasion didn't help.

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    Very disappointed in the lack of interest and participation in this thread. There are issues regarding religion, education, acceptable behaviour etc etc that could have been discussed here. I deliberately didn't participate just so I could see where it was going. Unfortunately nowhere.
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    Originally Posted by etherea
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    Very disappointed in the lack of interest and participation in this thread. There are issues regarding religion, education, acceptable behaviour etc etc that could have been discussed here. I deliberately didn't participate just so I could see where it was going. Unfortunately nowhere.
    Is this because this forum has been hijacked by fascist trolls?

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    Originally Posted by schadenfreude
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    Is this because this forum has been hijacked by fascist trolls?
    As much as I agree that this forum seems to go a bit Daily Mail at times, it'd still be helpful to not give us reasons to throw the mod stick around.
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    well that went by without notice, I saw nothing in the news or in the papers about this.
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    Originally Posted by etherea
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    Very disappointed in the lack of interest and participation in this thread. There are issues regarding religion, education, acceptable behaviour etc etc that could have been discussed here. I deliberately didn't participate just so I could see where it was going. Unfortunately nowhere.
    I did post the thread early and likewise I'm a little disappointed especially with the amount of members on here who could have contributed but maybe it was doomed to go to ratshit had peeps taken interest when the likes of this

    Is this because this forum has been hijacked by fascist trolls?
    is posted on it.
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    Just WTF, don't need it on such a topic.
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    Statement from the YPJ ( Kurdish women's protection units) for international womens day


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    they don't look very "free" to me, they look like they've been conscripted.
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    Volunteers so far as I know , was recent talk of conscription to defend Kobane areas but it was unpopular so didn't happen.
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    Stick an AK47 in their hands and then say the wrong thing. In the words of Mr Mr Humphreys, they're free.
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    Beautiful sight
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    I wouldn't mind one of those, the AK47 I mean, i'd love one of those.
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    Banned and barred, Israel’s women stand up to religious hardliners

    Ultra-Orthodox influence has excluded women from speaking at funerals and public prayers, and taken them off the radio





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    A woman holding a portion of the Torah during the morning prayer service at the Western Wall, in Jerusalem. Photograph: UPI / Barcroft ImagesShares


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    Sunday 19 March 2017 00.04 GMT Last modified on Sunday 19 March 2017 21.01 GMT

    The jeering crowds of men, held back by a thin security cordon as they screamed at the small group of women heading to the most sacred site in
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    , occasionally made contact, kicking, pushing or tripping one of the would-be worshippers.
    Sarah Moody, a 27-year-old preparing to become a rabbi, was among those knocked to the ground by the mob. As she scrambled back to her feet and headed towards the Western Wall, her knees were bruised and there were tears welling in her eyes. “It was frightening,” she said, raising her voice to be heard over cries of “evil-doers”, “anarchists” and other insults, and the shrill of blasting whistles. “They were right over me.”
    The skirmish was the latest battle in a long-running war between women and increasingly vocal and assertive religious hardliners over the public role and private rights of women in
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    , in which many believe the heart of their country and democracy is at stake.
    Over the last decade in different parts of Israel, women have been barred from sections of buses, banned from speaking at cemeteries, blocked from pavements, physically attacked for their clothing choices, airbrushed from newspapers and magazines and removed from the airwaves and news photos.
    These challenges are rooted in the objections of many in the ultra-Orthodox Jewish community to men and women mixing in public places, and to public representations of women in any form, from actors in advertisements to public figures on the news, or images in books. They affect everything from morning commutes and interior decoration to the most solemn religious ceremonies. Moody was attacked for joining public prayers and the celebration of a bat mitzvah – a girl’s coming of age ceremony – at the Western Wall.
    Women have responded to the many attempts to restrict their public roles and physical presence by turning to Israel’s powerful legal system, and again and again the courts have supported them, insisting that segregation is illegal and women should not be silenced.
    They have ruled in favour of a woman prevented from speaking at her own father’s burial, against a radio station that barred women from its airwaves – even blocking them from calling phone-in shows – and against bus companies that tried to segregate seating. The women who gather at the Western Wall each month had their
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    But important as these legal rulings are, they rely on government enforcement and community respect, and both are in short supply in a country where religion and state are closely entwined, and ultra-Orthodox politicians command a powerful and loyal voting block, women activists say.
    “[My friend] was prevented from speaking at her own dad’s funeral, and she actually appealed to the supreme court against cemetery authorities,” said Yael Rockman, director of
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    , a feminist movement for Orthodox Jewish women.
    “She won the case, but in terms of implementation of that ruling, what you see now is that in each area it is different; in some they respect it, but sometimes the authorities still make it difficult for women – it really depends.”
    Nor can the courts legislate for tastes. Advertisers who remove women from their posters and shops, or bus firms which tried to segregate their buses, insist they are simply catering to a growing market, one tempting even to international giants such as Ikea.
    A special edition of the catalogue for the Swedish firm’s affordable modern furniture, printed for Israel’s Haredi community, landed on doorsteps late last month, filled with photos of stylish interiors that would look familiar around the world, but for a single-sex version of model families posing inside them. There were no women or girls studying beside the bookshelves, grabbing snacks in the kitchen or relaxing in interiors populated only by men.
    When a similar catalogue published by Ikea in Saudi Arabia in 2012 came to wider attention,
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    , clarifying that “excluding women from the Saudi Arabian version of the catalogue is in conflict with the Ikea Group values”.
    In Israel, though,
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    , saying that the catalogue was in response to requests and “allows the religious and Haredi community to enjoy looking at the products and solutions that Ikea offers”.
    The head of the local franchise eventually apologised, but did not halt distribution of the catalogue, to the fury and dismay of many feminists.
    A furniture catalogue aimed at a conservative religious community may seem like a petty concern but the impact of occasions when women are barred, blocked or removed from public life is cumulative, feminists say.
    “This is spreading from something small to many areas in life – that’s why it’s important that we are here. People often don’t even mean badly, they think they are following [religious] rules, but they don’t understand that the impact is bad,” Rockman said.
    Israeli demographics also mean that the regulations of ultra-Orthodox groups are likely to have an ever-greater impact on the lives of all Israeli women, even the most secular.
    The population growth rate for the ultra-Orthodox, who currently account for one in 10 Israelis, significantly outpaces the overall rate, according to Israel’s Central Bureau of Statistics.
    “The Haredi population will increase remarkably both in size and in its share of the population, even if the course of the lowest alternative projection is followed,” a CBS official, Ari Paltiel, told a UN-organised conference in 2013. At least
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    , his predictions show – and perhaps more than a third.
    The rapid growth is changing the ultra-Orthodox communities themselves though, feminists say, and the communities which are the most prominent in seeking to restrict women are also seeing the birth of a feminist movement that may be key to the long-term defence of current rights.
    “It’s important to understand that the prohibition on displaying images of girls and women is new,”
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    in Haaretz newspaper.
    “Haredi life is based on the observance of the Torah’s commandments but, over the past 50 years, we have adopted commandments and rules that do not exist in the Torah. One of the worst of them is concealing images of women and girls.”
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    Women have come a long way, but there is so much more to do and such a long way to go. The jewish story as highlighted by Wulfie, female circumcision (aka forced removal of genitalia and sewing up of orifice resulting in menstrual, urinary and childbirth problems), the enforced covering of the whole body and face, lack of representation at local and national government in many counties etc. etc. etc. I could go on but chose to just make the point that it is an uphill struggle when a huge amount of women have adopted the "I'm alright Jack" attitude to everything and do not feel the need to support or speak up/out about the inequality that still exists in the world!
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    A good piece by Ayaan Hirsi Ali - On This 'Day Without A Woman , ' Don't Leave Women Oppressed By Sharia Law Behind .


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    Originally Posted by hagrid
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    I wouldn't mind one of those, the AK47 I mean, i'd love one of those.
    So what would you do with that? Finish your friend Tommy Mair's job? Rabid right winger? Check!Lone wolf? Check?Socially unadapted? Check!Loves guns? Check!Radicalised language? Check!

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    Still the Saudis have a girls council now so thats alright
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    Hebridean at heart..everywhere else is just somewhere on the way back there...
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