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    Existence and all that

    What are your thoughts on this whole thing called existence? With all things being vibrations when it comes to it, things popping in and out of existence all the time. What do you think about existence leading up to self awareness? Let's have a fun debate =)
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    A level of awareness deep enough to ponder 'existence' as a concept is (as far as we know) an intrinsically human quality. As far as Aristotle was concerned, the faculties of reason and the pursuit of philosophical ideas are the zenith of human endeavour. Personally I am fond of this approach; regardless of whether one arrives to satisfactory conclusions or not, that by merely 'doing philosophy' we have already accomplished our primary purpose as wise, sentient beings.

    Unfortunately, I wrestle with it somewhat as it seems like an existential cop-out. But what do you expect from someone who's 30 years old and still sleeps with stuffed animals?
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    Mmmmm... stuffed animals could be a problem though.

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    I exist, therefore I am.

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    Originally Posted by goody2shoes
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    Mmmmm... stuffed animals could be a problem though.
    Especially for Vegans....

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    Why would we have self awareness and consciousness if there were no reason to have them? Why would everything have an order if there were no reason for it? Would anything exist if we didn't? What would it matter?

    Cause and effect....because we exist, so does everything else. The order of everything goes all the way down to the sub atomic particles, and all the way to the solar system and stars in this galaxy, and all the rest of the galaxies.

    The earth turns at 1500 kilometers per hour...the earth goes around the sun at 100,000 kilometers per hour...the sun goes through the galaxy at 500,000 miles per hour.....dizzy yet?

    Particles make up atoms, atoms make up cells and all elements, cells make up all bodily organs and blood and veins and muscles and arteries and ligaments and skin. All must be in order to function. And every atom is given mass by "the God particle".

    I'm fascinated!

    But what about dark matter and dark energy? Do they have atoms and particles?
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    Current theories on Dark Matter may be miscalculated:

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    Originally Posted by gophangover
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    Why would we have self awareness and consciousness if there were no reason to have them? Why would everything have an order if there were no reason for it? Would anything exist if we didn't? What would it matter?

    Cause and effect....because we exist, so does everything else. The order of everything goes all the way down to the sub atomic particles, and all the way to the solar system and stars in this galaxy, and all the rest of the galaxies.

    The earth turns at 1500 kilometers per hour...the earth goes around the sun at 100,000 kilometers per hour...the sun goes through the galaxy at 500,000 miles per hour.....dizzy yet?

    Particles make up atoms, atoms make up cells and all elements, cells make up all bodily organs and blood and veins and muscles and arteries and ligaments and skin. All must be in order to function. And every atom is given mass by "the God particle".

    I'm fascinated!

    But what about dark matter and dark energy? Do they have atoms and particles?
    oh man I just love the way you think ............................ so fucking groovy xxx

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    Originally Posted by oldkeith
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    Current theories on Dark Matter may be miscalculated:

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    can I have some of what you're on man...........I must be missing quite a lot of brain cells, 'cause I can't even get my head around some of the questions, never mind the fucking answers.

    Mindst you, I have to face up - I failed maths, chemistry, physics - got biology even tho I refused to dissect little rat brothers and got sent to library in disgrace. Would never make a scientist I'm afraid......not mainstream anyway.....am far too much of an anarchist for that........

    Love yer dude.....you got brains I don't even know the colour value of
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    For those, (like me), who don't have the head for equations, a more simple illustrated explanation here:

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    Originally Posted by oldkeith
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    For those, (like me), who don't have the head for equations, a more simple illustrated explanation here:

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    cheers dude

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    Hey hey! I always assumed that gravity was in some way responsible for unexplained movement in space. The above article goes way past that but at least my mind is in the right place. I will re-read and give it some more thought even though its pitched at a much higher level than I normally think.
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    Gravity's usually a bitch when it comes to dropped toast
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    Not all who wander are lost
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    It's amazing the way that it also flips it so that the butter or whatever lands on the ground
    Because you are alive, everything is posible - Thich Nhat Hanh
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    Originally Posted by etherea
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    It's amazing the way that it also flips it so that the butter or whatever lands on the ground
    You should try owning a greedy staffy. It's pretty much unheard of for any dropped food to reach the floor...
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    Teach the fucker some manners man
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    Because you are alive, everything is posible - Thich Nhat Hanh

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    A reason for existence if existence is to be happiness personified is hot buttered toast, lashings of thick cut marmalade with a mug of tea to wash it down for breakfast and having said that I've got no bread to make it so I may as well disappear............
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    Not all who wander are lost
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    No bread? shame on you!
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    Originally Posted by etherea
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    Teach the fucker some manners man
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    We call that manners. Saves wiping the floor...
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    Originally Posted by etherea
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    No bread? shame on you!
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    Noooooo, it's shame on dog 1, she's a 66kg bone and muscle bread monster who can open cupboards. Just loves bread especially corn bread.
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    Not all who wander are lost
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    Originally Posted by Wulfie
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    Gravity's usually a bitch when it comes to dropped toast
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    oh Wulfie, you are such a fucking sweetheart man ............. just love you to bits
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    Originally Posted by etherea
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    Teach the fucker some manners man
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    ha ha ha ha ha ha - tell 'em tell 'em xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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    Originally Posted by Rick69
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    We call that manners. Saves wiping the floor...
    Hey hey Rick69 - I'm liking you more n more every day xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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    Originally Posted by Wulfie
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    A reason for existence if existence is to be happiness personified is hot buttered toast, lashings of thick cut marmalade with a mug of tea to wash it down for breakfast and having said that I've got no bread to make it so I may as well disappear............
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    don't you fucking dare dude - just get your ass out there and make some, or steal some or even find some in a skip - HAVE IT !!!!!!!!

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