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    Quote Originally Posted by zendaze View Post
    The cycling if maintained will be enough and should allow you to eat pretty much anything you like.

    The physiological impact of cycling can be improved by utilising the intermittent sprint/ coast technique (I forget the proper term)......go hard for a burst then soft for a burst.

    A mate swears by fasting two days per week on top of exercise.....I'd rather time my nutrient intake to benefit muscle tissue post exercise....

    Easy for me to say.....tis a long time since I've bothered.

    Take comfort in the fact that if you do die prematurely it might free a little (much needed) space for the next generation.

    High blood pressure in the UK is something of a norm.....

    Curiously so.....

    I wonder why?
    I have so many hills on my commute that I think I do that naturally. Slog up the hills and coast down. The hills are a lot easier now I have gears.
    I got my results from my 24hr blood pressure monitor and the average was in the normal range. I did have some massive spikes but I suppose that will be down to the stress of work and bouts on the bike. I am expecting a call from the doctor any minute to discusss the results and my diet/training etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duckman View Post
    Because it contains medium chain triglycerides (MCT) that can only be burned as energy and cannot be stored. I found it keeps me awake when I want to go to sleep.
    That might be a goot tip for my 24 hour bike race

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    Quote Originally Posted by emmadilemma View Post
    Vitalite margarine has quite a buttery taste but is plant based so is less fattening..
    I think he is into eating real food, not faux food.
    We all lead different lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aman View Post
    No I haven't tried coconut in my eggs. Is it to replace the butter? I am not too worried about the butter to be honest. Why not coconut at night time?




    I do love rowing but I just don't have the time for it at the moment. I wish I had room for a rowing machine.



    Paul
    It takes up to 5 mins to do 2k and most machines fold up.Mine is in my awning......but the cycling is next best thing as youre using most of the large muscle mass fatburning muscle.
    If you couple that to minimum carbs,higher protein and veg/salad/fruit youll force your body to utilise stored fat by converting it to glucose instead of using whats in your sugary carb food.
    Being properly hydrated is important though.I know that from years of road racing and sculls rowing.If youre not properly hydrated you soon feel wiped out and it doesnt matter how much energy food youve eaten.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NomadicRT View Post
    It takes up to 5 mins to do 2k and most machines fold up.Mine is in my awning......but the cycling is next best thing as youre using most of the large muscle mass fatburning muscle.
    If you couple that to minimum carbs,higher protein and veg/salad/fruit youll force your body to utilise stored fat by converting it to glucose instead of using whats in your sugary carb food.
    Being properly hydrated is important though.I know that from years of road racing and sculls rowing.If youre not properly hydrated you soon feel wiped out and it doesnt matter how much energy food youve eaten.
    My diet consists of mainly eggs for breakfast, eggs and fish for lunch and meat with carrots, sweed, broccoli, calliflower etc

    I don't eat bread, potatoes, rice, pasta and have really cut back on beers and coffee and I drink mainly water. No fruit drinks etc

    I do have the occasional piece of fruit and Itend to have two or three dried dates to give me a little energy on my cycle home as it is a bit of a bitch.

    I am happy on this diet and it is sustainable

    I don't add salt to anything so my salt intake is probably too low

    Paul
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    Sounds like a good balance.
    Ive never had colesterol or protein issues but my doctor was always wittering on about my diet and avoiding colesterol and protein so just as an experiment and a bet I had all my bloods etc done then for 3 months ate only egg meat fish butter fruit veg no carb foods but drank my usual water milk and gazillion cups of coffee.I did my normal routine of biking rowing etc as before.I wasnt overweight at all but I lost 8 pounds overall but increased my muscle definition and mass and virtually no pinchable fat layer and my blood/urine tests were more or less exactly the same bar colesterol which was lower.The weight loss was put down to mostly internal stored fats.
    Oddly i went back on my normal diet with some carbs but didnt put weight on right up until I injured my back and immobile for 2 years.
    Ive never been convinced about Colesterol being the enemy in health ussues.I firmly believe the bigger issue is glycerides and triglycerides and those are products of the high sugar diets most people eat.I think if you tackle that youll make progress quite rapidly and the only real way is not eating bread pastry pasta potatoes etc or drinking highly refined juices or cold drinks.

    Some friends of mine in France are both overweight and done the 2 out of 7 day fast every week 2 days drinking water only.They both feel better and have better blood results but neither has lost an ounce of weight in 2 years on the regime.Both grumble about not losing weight but neither will stop eating bread or pastry or rice or potatoes.

    Not everyone is the same and not everyone responds the same way to dieting but the majority of people who complain about weight simply consume far too much sugary carb foods like bread pastry and potatoes and sugar laden tinned foods and sugary drinks.

    Bread Rice Pasta Pastry Potatoes are all peasant diets....all very high carb foods that sustained peasant populations (and still do)when there was/is little else of nutritional value.When youve access to better quality food theres no absolute need for them except if youre using massive amounts of calories a day.
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    I suggest reading through this, published by the British Heart Foundation
    - https://www.bhf.org.uk/publications/...hy-weight-loss -

    I was pointed to it after a heart attack. Despite having lots of time when my ongoing condition still prevents me from exercising as much as I'd like to I'm still over a stone lighter than I was in January...

    I have a spreadsheet which adds it all up for you, let me know if you decide you want it

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    Quote Originally Posted by wdSteve View Post
    I suggest reading through this, published by the British Heart Foundation
    - https://www.bhf.org.uk/publications/...hy-weight-loss -

    I was pointed to it after a heart attack. Despite having lots of time when my ongoing condition still prevents me from exercising as much as I'd like to I'm still over a stone lighter than I was in January...

    I have a spreadsheet which adds it all up for you, let me know if you decide you want it

    You may find these interesting....a lot of bhf advice follows mayoclinic cardio specialists and their ground breaking work

    http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-li...t/art-20045460

    and this if youve the time/patience to read it (its a pdf file)
    http://circ.ahajournals.org/content/123/20/2292
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    Quote Originally Posted by aman View Post
    I would like to find out a bit more about that. Would I have to abstain from strenuous exercise whilst fasting
    Best starting point is the fasting subreddit:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/fasting/

    Make sure you read the FAQ, especially about electrolytes. You don't have to abstain from exercise but I wouldn't do strenuous ones. I did a 5 day fasting while I was working in a factory. However you need to read and be prepared. You cannot jyst jump into a fast like that. Ideally you want to cut down sugar and carbs for a few weeks before fasting, otherwise the cravings will kill you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wdSteve View Post
    I suggest reading through this, published by the British Heart Foundation
    - https://www.bhf.org.uk/publications/...hy-weight-loss -

    I was pointed to it after a heart attack. Despite having lots of time when my ongoing condition still prevents me from exercising as much as I'd like to I'm still over a stone lighter than I was in January...

    I have a spreadsheet which adds it all up for you, let me know if you decide you want it
    Thanks for that
    I had a look but they advocate eating way too much carbs for my liking

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    Quote Originally Posted by aman View Post

    I don't eat bread, potatoes, rice, pasta and have really cut back on beers and coffee and I drink mainly water.



    I don't add salt to anything so my salt intake is probably too low

    Paul


    Rain water is better than tap water. What is you blood pressure like? Having it too low can be a problem as well as having it too high.
    We all lead different lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wdSteve View Post
    I suggest reading through this, published by the British Heart Foundation
    - https://www.bhf.org.uk/publications/...hy-weight-loss -

    I was pointed to it after a heart attack. Despite having lots of time when my ongoing condition still prevents me from exercising as much as I'd like to I'm still over a stone lighter than I was in January...

    I have a spreadsheet which adds it all up for you, let me know if you decide you want it
    Not having a shot at you, but I would not take any notice of book or website that tells you to avoid saturated fat, It is trans fat found in margarine and hardened vegetable oil that is bad for you heart.When ever you ask for the scientific references they are always for trans fat. Many seed oils are bad because they contain far too much omega-6 leading to inflammation.
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    I remember back in the 60's 70's and 80's all the so called experts telling everyone to switch to margarine and other hydrogenated vegetable oil products and not eat dairy fats at all,only to change their tune not so long ago after finally admitting that margarine and some raw veg oils are the worst thing possible to eat.
    A fact that had already been uncovered back in the early 80's - a guy whos name eludes me wrote a book on the subject I read at that time- and the relationship between omega 3 and omega 6 HDL and LDL lipid fats and triglycerides and how some things like pineapple and pomegranate and oatmeal can radically drop colesterol and triglyceride levels.
    My father was put on the BHF diet of that time by the hospital when he had angina in the early 70's which at that time included eating margarine and frying with veg oils not fat and eating products made with veg oil not dairy. He died in 1980 at 48 of a heart attack.I often wonder how much that diet influenced the outcome and how many others have died as a result of that disasterous advice but it sparked my interest in the subject and sports nutrition and its been a frustratingly long time waiting for expert opinion to start swing away from that earlier stance.
    Theres a top cardio specialist in the US struggling against the established view to prove the Triglycerides and transfats are the danger but slowly winning the battle with the scientific proof.

    Anyway,apologies to Paul this is his weightloss thread and probably not the right one for discussing coronary heart disease.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NomadicRT View Post
    Anyway,apologies to Paul this is his weightloss thread and probably not the right one for discussing coronary heart disease.
    Not at all

    I am interested in loosing weight because I got spooked by a high blood pressure reading that kinda opened my eyes to the fact that I am no longer in my 20s but in my 50s and if I don't do something now then I am going to start suffering more as I get older.

    Worldwide, more people now die of obesity than malnutrition. This is the first time this has ever happend in the history of the planet.

    The problem is, the authorities either do not know or are deliberately misleading us on nutrtion. We are constantly being feed bullshit about fats and cholesterol ect while they force feed the masses a low fat chemical shit storm high fructose corn syrup diet of death.

    We have to self educate.

    Thanks for all your help on this

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    Quote Originally Posted by aman View Post
    while they force feed the masses a low fat chemical shit storm high fructose corn syrup diet of death.
    Well said.

    Husband used to work in the IT department of a Pharma company who actually celebrated the rise in obesity and type 2 diabetes.

    I remember teaching an infant in my adult and child class. His parents were very overweight and I couldn't ger armbands on him (he was in the under 2's class). I tried a swimfin and had to use adult straps to get around his body.
    Later on the parents called and asked me to teach him to swim. Every lesson he was promised sweets if he managed to do things and invariably he came in eating some sort of chocolate bar or crisps (I managed to stop that at least by saying he might get cramp). He couldn't perform an effective (swimming talk - effective is - it's OK, it stops them rolling in the water, efficient - it's good it provides propulsion and stability) front crawl kick because - well, he couldn't streamline his legs due to the size of his thighs. He also had trouble with the arm action as it was hard to perform the arm action close to his body and he swung his arms out causing body roll, which wasn't compensated by a decent kick. I'm not even going to go into breaststroke or backstroke, there isn't space and this is the wrong forum.
    Eventually, his Dad asked why he wasn't improving and I bit the bullet and told him that it might help if he lost a little weight.
    Christ, what a sh*tstorm.
    Didn't hear from them for a month, then they called, their daughter, a skinny wee thing (???) wanted to come back, so they were both coming back. No change in her brother. This time story was he was getting bullied at school because of his weight and the headmaster had left out my 'might's and 'little's.

    My husband loves cycling. So do I but Old Aberdeen was not built for cycling or any shoes with any sort of heel - well unless you have really good suspension or like falling flat on your face a lot.

    Husband decided to sort out exercise problem in the winter when he had a hip injury and couldn't run by getting one of these:
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/PedalPro-Bi.../dp/B008U8GT04

    You can get them in loads of places, we got one in the local bike shop, this is just the first one that was a good example.
    He used to cycle while watching an episode of SG-1 most nights.

    I'd advocate swimming as a full body workout, improves flexibility too and is an excellent aerobic exercise. Easy on your joints too, like cycling. However, I'm obviously biased there, you don't compete in and teach a sport and then say, 'Nah, don't bother with it.'

    Anything I recommend nutritionally would be hypocritical, best listen to the others.
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